Eorzea has much Light? How?

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Originally Posted by Berteaux_Braumegain

I think it's more that Hydaelyn's becoming too powerful rather than "the present state of the world is too full of light". Because there's still all sorts of issues in Ul'dah, Gridania, and Limsa that haven't been addressed.

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I'm not sure this is the case though, because in a storyline quest Matoya uses a crystal of light from long ago (that orb thing), since they are more powerful than the ones nowadays (Iirc, it's been a while since I did that quest so I could be mis-remembering). If anything Hydaelyn may be growing weaker over time. That's what has lead me to believe maybe our character itself is becoming too powerful.

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

I'm not sure this is the case though, because in a storyline quest Matoya uses a crystal of light from long ago (that orb thing), since they are more powerful than the ones nowadays (Iirc, it's been a while since I did that quest so I could be mis-remembering). If anything Hydaelyn may be growing weaker over time. That's what has lead me to believe maybe our character itself is becoming too powerful.

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I like the idea, but wouldn't that imply that our WoL is of equal (or greater) strength than all other Ascians combined on our shard currently?

The story leading up to the flood of light is still being told. Honestly, all it takes is Garlemald to somehow falter or become light aligned to shift the balance to the brink. Garlemald seems to be at the root of most conflicts, especially since we ended the dragonsong war.
As pointed out during the alliance's conversation with Varis, the beast tribes primal summoning increased after Garlemald made moves against them. Even the beast tribes are far less chaotic without Garlemald's influence.

I'm expecting a time skip sometime during or immediately after the next patch. I think the current rulers of Garlemald are going to get wrecked and then the Popularis may take over the nation, leaving the world with no significant source of darkness.

When the last patch ended, Garlemald was losing a battle it should theoretically be able to win, easily. The Ascian possessed Zenos is obviously getting wrecked by the WoL in the Shadowbringers cutscene.
I don't think these are coincidences. If we defeat Garlemald, where does the darkness come from afterwards? It looks to me like the flood of light coincides with Garlemald's defeat.

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Originally Posted by Edax

But the WoL has turned Doma and Ala Mhigo into warzones. Before the WoL arrived, it was a place of brutal order and instead turned it into a hotspot of conflict. While WoL has imposed order on Ishgard, the next expansion was about removing order from far off lands. And the Ascians are actively fueling conflict along with the WoL so I don't really see the problem the WoL is causing in terms of "balance".

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We did? Honestly those battles were pretty short lived, in fact, in relatively no time at all we’ve turned 3 backwater nations struggling against their primitive neighbors into a force that is beating back a technologically superior opponent at every turn.
At EVERY turn. When have you heard of Garlemald actually winning a battle?

1000 year war against dragons? Done in by our hand.

Ancient sleeping gods/mechs/beasts of destruction? Dead at our hands.

Implausible plans like to kill lesser men? Done with our hands.

It's a farce to suggest that the world as it currently exists is a bastion of Light, unless you come up with some really screwball definition of what "light" is. The world is not full to saturation with "good", "order", or even "illumination". Or if it is, then the bar of "balance" is set so low that a "balanced" world would be a truly horrible place in which to live.

No, if a catastrophe of Light is on the horizon it won't be because of what the WoL has done, and probably won't be because of what the WoL WILL do. My guess is that the big hint came with Solus and his mutterings about the Black Rose "bonding with Light". I suspect that the BR will be used in some fashion which unleashes an uncontrollable wave of Light across the world.

So, basically, it will be the Asican's fault. As usual.

Regardless, whoever is at at fault, it'll be the WoL's job to clean up, also as usual. Because Light is the problem, the WoL will embrace the Dark - and thus will a χ-blade be created, the final piece in my plan to unlock KINGDOM HEARTS and rule ALL THE WORLDS! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

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Originally Posted by Berteaux_Braumegain

I think it's more that Hydaelyn's becoming too powerful rather than "the present state of the world is too full of light". Because there's still all sorts of issues in Ul'dah, Gridania, and Limsa that haven't been addressed.

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The problem with this is that Hydaelyn is the weakest she's been in thousands of years - a deliberate result of the Ascians forcing her hand to protect the Warrior of Light on multiple occasions - saving us from Ultima being the blow that finally rendered her effectively impotent. The whole reason she recruited Minfilia as her Emissary is that she was no longer strong enough to even TALK to us directly. No, Hydaelyn is definitely not "too powerful" - just the opposite!

Actually... the entire concept of the "balance between light and dark" is a farce and a red herring Elidibus came up with. Specifically so that the WoD would want to cause a Calamity. The very first thing the WoD tells the WoL is that the different Shards have never had Light and Dark balanced on them. And we know of only two Shards that have had a Flood happen.

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Warrior of Darkness
But not all worlds hold Light and Dark in equal measure. In ours, the power of Light was greater by far.

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What matters is not that Light and Darkness are balanced. What matters is how quickly the amount of light or darkness changes. If the change is slow, nothing bad happens. There's just more light or more darkness then there was before. What gets dangerous is when the amount of light or darkness changes very quickly. That is when a Flood becomes a danger. While there is not a lot of Light on the Source at the moment, Light has been gaining many victories over Darkness recently. So there is a danger that the Source might be heading towards a Flood of Light even though there's not actually a lot of Light on the Source.

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Originally Posted by Edax

But the WoL has turned Doma and Ala Mhigo into warzones. Before the WoL arrived, it was a place of brutal order and instead turned it into a hotspot of conflict. While WoL has imposed order on Ishgard, the next expansion was about removing order from far off lands. And the Ascians are actively fueling conflict along with the WoL so I don't really see the problem the WoL is causing in terms of "balance".

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That's just incorrect.
I will assume you played the expansion, and you will remember that prior to the WoL intervening in Doma and Ala Mhigo, you had rebellions in both areas acting against the empire AND you had Zenos stoking the desire to rebel (That was kind of his end game. To get them to keep building their rebellions until he had someone to fight against.)

There was not order of any sort in the two areas. There was a chaotic despotism without any real sense of order because Zenos wanted to fan the flames of chaos to bring about someone he would have fun killing.
In 2.0 and both expansions after, we took the conflicts that were getting worse by the minute and ended them; or we took situations that were in utter chaos (the dragon war) and ended those too.

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Originally Posted by Kallera

At EVERY turn. When have you heard of Garlemald actually winning a battle?

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Honestly.. this is actually a gripe of mine for the story. We always hear that Garlemald is big and scary and doing big and scary things.. then we walk onto the scene and just kind of shove them out of the way.
I think there has only been ONE time where we lost and the story has had some sort of tension, and that's when Zenos came to attack us at Rhalgr's, and even then that just makes us switch up our venue and go dominate the empire on a different battlefield. I think we only really lost one barely named NPC, and even then, if i remember correctly he sort of had the vibe that he was being built up just to lose him.

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Originally Posted by LineageRazor

Regardless, whoever is at at fault, it'll be the WoL's job to clean up, also as usual. Because Light is the problem, the WoL will embrace the Dark - and thus will a χ-blade be created, the final piece in my plan to unlock KINGDOM HEARTS and rule ALL THE WORLDS! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

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Well, the Door is already right there in the Chrysalis...

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Originally Posted by LineageRazor

So, basically, it will be the Asican's fault. As usual.

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Not necessarily. At this point it is looking very likely that Hydaelyn may be to blame as well. Jenomis makes it a point to describe Ultima as a being with morals beyond mortal comprehension - a statement easily applicable to Hydaelyn and Zodiark.

It's particularly interesting when considering that Hydaelyn and Zodiark used to be a single entity...and that Hydaelyn/Zodiark are depicted using the same 'hands over chest' pose as Ultima herself. All three are also tied directly to crystals that empower their servants.

Except Ultima is said to be an alien if not a construct and those don't seem to play by the rules that the rest of the world does. The arm crossing for her could be a I'm sleeping type thing since it's been a while since Ramza and before him we don't know.