Realistic 5.0 Jobs

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Originally Posted by Talraen

I don't think an evasion tank would work inside FFXIV's system. Unless you're "evading" a certain percentage of damage which happens to very closely resemble the damage reduced by armor and traditional tank abilities.

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Yeah, this. The trouble with evasion tanks is if they are 100% effective, they are broken (which do you prefer, a standard tank that takes reduced damage or an evasion tank that takes NO damage? No contest), and if they are not 100% effective - well, the rest of the time they die (which do you prefer, a standard tank that takes reduced damage, or an evasion tank that randomly dies from time to time? Again, no contest).

NIN were broken the first way in FFXI for a long, long time. Then SE started adding bosses with attacks that ignored shadows, and they became broken the other way.

NIN in their heyday were AWESOME, and that's why folks remember evasion tanking fondly - but the problem was that they were TOO GOOD. It was very difficult to design encounters able to challenge a party with a good NIN tank. SE eventually gave up and wrote NIN off, designing encounters that only a damage reducing tank like PLD could field, and that pretty much marked the end of NIN tanking in FFXI. I doubt they'll make the mistake again of bringing evasion tanks back into play.

In regards to the original post, I, too, think that the roles should be swapped around. I favor BLU as DPS, DNC as healer, and GEO as tank. I do want to point out, though, that the odds of us getting all three jobs next expansion are slim; doing three for Heavensward just about killed the dev team (and landed us with MCH being underdeveloped, practically a clone of BRD), and that's why we only got two jobs with Stormblood.

Thavnair seems like a good origin point for BLU and DNC

The way BLU is presented in the OP is basically taking assets form PLD. PLD has falchion-like swords and shields. It'd be much more appealing if BLU had a more unique weapon.

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Healer: Geomancer
Weapon: Bell
Type: Shielder like Scholar using White-Mage-esque spells.

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So basically AST using bells instead of cards? Did we learn nothing from HW?

I'm still expecting blue mage and dancer as the next tank and healer. However I would much rather see Geomancer as a DPS than healer.

More than anything, I want to see someone that use water as their primary element

Stripper = ERP specialist

Praying for Dancer Healers, tbh

BLU Tank would help its Learning ability unless they can find a unique way for it to gain monster abilites without it, and of course Dancer Healer because its would (Very Welcomingly) shake things up in the healer role as we already have 3 Mages, and I really hate the fact that magic is the ONLY way you can heal someone. Plz consider DNC for that role.

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Originally Posted by Ralts

Healer: Geomancer
Weapon: Bell
Type: Shielder like Scholar using White-Mage-esque spells.

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Please, no.

WHM will be the only of the four healers that can't be a shielder. And with geomancer healing as well as any WHM, there will be a second SCH, that is pretty much required at any 8-man content and the another slot will be given to GEO on prog or AST on speedrun. WHM will be left out, like it was on 3.3~3.4.

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Originally Posted by Jadub2k

[...]I really hate the fact that magic is the ONLY way you can heal someone. Plz consider DNC for that role.

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But wouldn't DNC be a magical healer too?

Chemist would be a good way to approach healing without MP, but likely would be too tied to ALC for resources.