Do people treat you differently on different jobs?

Samurai has been the new face of bad players ever since the launch of 4.0

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Originally Posted by Kallera

As a dps class(SAM), I often get complaints that we are always the one to die often.

Doesn’t help that many endgame fights nowadays seem to favor mechanics that kill a dps in 2-3 hits, if not killing us outright, there are 4 dps in any given party, and it is on us to perform flawlessly due to the hard enrage...

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For real. As RDM I can see the whole room during boss fights and can easily dodge AoE. As SAM, I'm more worried about eating a cleave or short range AoE designed to kill melee. I sprint away from the boss and then it's FLOOR AOE! CRAP! Dodge that and then get a glowing red arrow over me. GET AWAY FROM THE GROUP! Now run back into the boss. CLEAVE! Dead.

"SAM needs to l2p."

Seriously? I have new found respect for melee after leveling SAM. /props

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Originally Posted by Remus

Just play SAM in end-game content like raids and people will complain because your are not boosting their e-peen on fflogs and won't take you cause of that.

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Actually.. the majority of people that I know who won't take SAM into end game content isn't because its a selfish DPS class, but because the majority of the player base do less damage as a well geared Samurai than a middling to poor geared tank who can preform competently.

Eh, SAM is fine, its all about what class you find suits your own personal rhythm best and you like playing. This isn't a game where jobs are so underpowered you have to do dungeons in all SAM parties because no one will take you. I think SAM suffers a bit more since its a charge based melee class with a bit of calculation in its style, in a game where OMG RUN MOAR seems to be the dominant mode of encounters this patch.

Thinking about it, no not really, I'm treated the same on anything, if I talk it generally decides if the party becomes chatty

I don't know, I'm mostly a casual player, the only ex I've participated in are whatever's required by Khloe (so unsynced), and I've never tanked. as AST, I've experienced getting jokes/sarcasm about balance cards, while as SMN or RDM I sometimes get to joke with healers about our party (in alliance raids mostly) being safe from wipe. I guess I haven't encountered discrimination due to my job unless I performed really bad, but I'm my own worst critic, I'd probably incriminate myself before others do :P

Not really, other than that I get more comms as a healer than a DPS or tank.

tbh I wouldn't notice, I main only SMN. Run SCH/PLD with full FC party lol (who are just happy someone else will heal/tank). On SMN it doesn't matter if I'm propping up our constantly-dead healers, using my party buffs/pet to compliment party comp, aggro-reduction + out DPSing all our melee, the coms/praise will still go to the healers or RDM lol. I find it sucks being a DPS in general now, most healers spend time healing themselves up from their mistakes and blaming us for dying to unavoidable damage (do you have any idea how many potions I use in raids now? They don't work, but damn do I try. And Drain is now cross-roled, the fact that I genuinely need it to survive even a minute longer in a fight is so aggravating). Being able to get out even average DPS with all the insane mechanics and constant death is pretty darn impressive for a lot of average tier players.

Edit: I will say, the few times I went with randoms as a trash-tier healer, people were noticeably more patient/friendly when I made mistakes or made suggestions to people about classes they were playing.

eh, back from the time i started playing to 3.3 I used to get a lot of crap for being a DRG, even if I dodged things, and took little dmg.

as a WHM, I get crap if i'm not on top of making sure everyone is at 100% HP all the time (grow up, not doing it. if you're at 80% and the Tank needs healing, get over yourself; I'm also not going to baby you with heals because you want to have the biggest DPS epeen in Lighthouse.).

I get a lot of people playing DRG go "i'm sorry, i didn't mean to die" and I reply "it's okay, you're a DRG, i've been there, you have animation lock"

When i play RDM i get asked why i don't heal/raise depending on what level the content is; when I play SAM I do notice I tend to be bottom of the list for getting heals.

DRK? I go in, i apologize in advance because I don't feel that confident about my tanking skills and do my best.

I get coms almost all around no matter what I play, but it's easy to see where people's minds do go. I'm not saying I'm the best at any of the classes, my DPS isn't the best in the bucket, I main WHM now, so i don't have the DPS rotations down pat any longer and I was leveling RDM and SAM for fun. I'm scared to death to leave Grit about 80% of the time unless I'm queuing with my healer and I let them know...so..it's all in perception.

Not so much on different jobs as much as I do with my actual gender on occasion, but I've learned paying those people any sort of attention or mind (especially when they're terrible players already), isn't worth my time or frustration over.