Bots in Frontlines - Do something.

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Originally Posted by Harka12

This will kill the PvP, just question of time when. I come to play this MMO because im bored of WoW, but i guess SE care less about this then wow developers...

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pvp was killed long time ago. it's been dyin a slow death since 2015

I didn't use frontline for several monthes, and now, I think, better it were bots :(. Seriously, what happened during that time? Teams, I joining now not just pug teams, in pug teams someone usually trying to command and etc. My current teams consist of pugs in despair, that have no hope at all. I saw wins few times, but that were like miracle. One more miracle and I will get blue sphere mount, but what to do next depends of what happened. Is frontline moved to total premade domination and I should trying to find pvp linkshell? Or maybe it is GC problem, all skilled people trying to gather in one GC, and I should wait while they gather in mine?

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Originally Posted by Gor

pvp was killed long time ago. it's been dyin a slow death since 2015

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Not entirely inaccurate, but patch 3.5 revitalized pvp. The Garo event, as well as frontline freelancer ensured that queues were fast clear up to 4.0, at least on Aether.

If frontline freelancer was an option from the start, queues probably would have been fine all along and this idea that pvp was dead wouldn't exist.

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Originally Posted by lanevn

Is frontline moved to total premade domination and I should trying to find pvp linkshell?

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You really shouldn't queue solo. If there is a premade group in the match, they are very likely going to win. The average playerbase is mindbogglingly bad at this game, so a group of decent players will overwhelmingly dominate most matches.

Really why cant I just join the bots an go afk 24/7 for free 70s an tokens lol

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Originally Posted by Kisama

You really shouldn't queue solo. If there is a premade group in the match, they are very likely going to win. The average playerbase is mindbogglingly bad at this game, so a group of decent players will overwhelmingly dominate most matches.

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Thanks. But how to seek pvp teams. Any more effective ways than friend-to-friend asking? Or first rule of pvp linkshell is: you do not talk about pvp linkshell?

I suggest inviting a friend or group of friends to make a pre-made team. Frontlines is a lot more fun when you're playing with your friends, especially with other pre-mades queuing.

As for finding people to play with, check out the Wolf Pups Den discord! ^_^

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Originally Posted by Astrophysx

As for finding people to play with, check out the Wolf Pups Den discord! ^_^

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Thanks, I will try, though it looks like feast dedicated.

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Originally Posted by Astrophysx

I suggest inviting a friend or group of friends to make a pre-made team. Frontlines is a lot more fun when you're playing with your friends, especially with other pre-mades queuing.

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Problem that friends who like pvp do not want to try FF, and I can't blame them - battlegrounds here are really worst battlegrounds I ever saw, even among trash-mmo's.

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Originally Posted by lanevn

Thanks, I will try, though it looks like feast dedicated.
Problem that friends who like pvp do not want to try FF, and I can't blame them - battlegrounds here are really worst battlegrounds I ever saw, even among trash-mmo's.

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It is subjective.
WoW BG only made me want to TK my own pug teammates every time we run into a premade.
FF14 Frontline, at least I have a better chance to cause a premade team a loss.
It wont be one side massacre.

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Originally Posted by Divinemights

It is subjective.
WoW BG only made me want to TK my own pug teammates every time we run into a premade.
FF14 Frontline, at least I have a better chance to cause a premade team a loss.
It wont be one side massacre.

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Discussions like "Is more random good for BG?" are really subjective. Number of BG matches per active player per day is objective. I doubt you have illusions that wow players less involved in pvp. Of course I can't say for all games and I didn't, only those, I played, though doubt it is possible something more dead than Astrologos :).

P.S. I do not count feast as BG, ranked arena is another thing, though it is not so good here also.

I mean, this is just a random thought and I know it won't work in every match but...how about we start with the.....4 HOUR KICK TIMER!

WHY?!?!?! Who thought a 1 kick per 4 hours was a good idea? As if you won't have 2 bots or people afk in a match back to back