Eureka is soooo good for capping mendacity.

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Originally Posted by Texa

I did it in 5 and it felt like a breeze compared to pre-nerf umbrites.

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Right?? or those god awful unids...

"Sooo good for capping mendacity." Compare the time you have to spend on Eureka to get 450 tomes, with the time it takes you to run Expert Roulette 5 times.

Like... seriously? o_õ

I'll tell you a good way of getting tomes - Savage raids. 30 tomes for each. And not as mind-numbingly boring as either Eureka or running Hell's Lid / Fractal for the 50th time. c:

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Originally Posted by Crescents

Then they'd see most players unsub even sooner between major content patches, which I doubt SE wants to see happen, even if yoshi claims he doesnt want people to play his game everyday.

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These type of players are vultures and they worthless to a mmorpg and a gaming company that operates it.
It is good that no gaming company will taking these players seriously.
On side note, this FF14 can reborn from 1.0 is not because of these vultures, it is because of dedication of the legacy player.

p.s. I am not a legacy player.

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Originally Posted by Divinemights

These type of players are vultures and they worthless to a mmorpg and a gaming company that operates it.
It is good that no gaming company will taking these players seriously.
On side note, this FF14 can reborn from 1.0 is not because of these vultures, it is because of dedication of the legacy player.

p.s. I am not a legacy player.

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Name calling never helps to make a point.

Also, no player is worthless to a gaming company. People who sub mainly for new packs still bring in income and can still very much impact people's opinions of a game. If a player is unhappy, there's a good chance they will tell someone about it. Now, this may not be the type of player they are catering to as a whole, but it's a bit naive to dismiss them entirely.

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Originally Posted by BluexBird

"Sooo good for capping mendacity." Compare the time you have to spend on Eureka to get 450 tomes, with the time it takes you to run Expert Roulette 5 times.

Like... seriously? o_õ

I'll tell you a good way of getting tomes - Savage raids. 30 tomes for each. And not as mind-numbingly boring as either Eureka or running Hell's Lid / Fractal for the 50th time. c:

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That's great for people who raid on Tuesdays but what if you don't raid until the weekend or later in the week? The fact is most people capping men tomes in Eureka are there for their relics, crystals, etc anyhow.

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Originally Posted by Divinemights

These type of players are vultures and they worthless to a mmorpg and a gaming company that operates it.
It is good that no gaming company will taking these players seriously.
On side note, this FF14 can reborn from 1.0 is not because of these vultures, it is because of dedication of the legacy player.

p.s. I am not a legacy player.

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You do realize 1.0 was shut down because of people complaining and people not playing it? How far would 1.0 would go without all those free months? How can you be insulting to this degree?

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Originally Posted by Crescents

To be fair the "mother of all grinds" can be done in a few days if you actually put effort into it.

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Originally Posted by Crescents

Then they'd see most players unsub even sooner between major content patches, which I doubt SE wants to see happen, even if yoshi claims he doesnt want people to play his game everyday.

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You do not see the irony here? You are in support of time gating, while at the same time made new content worthless in a day.

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Originally Posted by Vstarstruck

I wish they just remove the message... it really has no point other then to be annoying.

There SHOULD be messages for having the cap of 2k and unable to collect from that. I am not even talking about diadem 3.0, I can just do expert once or twice a week just because, do tribes etc, and see it. drives me nuts because I have to look every time I see that to make sure It is not referencing something being at 2k.

Increasing the weekly cap doesn't do anything with the baseline issue, warning messages for no reason.

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Do you think people still care that you call it diadem 3.0 instead of Eureka? Are you trying to prove something?

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Originally Posted by Nezerius

Do these same people also happen to have a source on Yoshi-P actually saying this?

The catch up patches usually have an easier step, to have the weapon catch up with the raid gear, like the 5 aether oil step for the anima weapon.

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They gave none, so ye should've said it's a rumor, but a note the aether oils were in 3.25, umbrite came with 3.3 release

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Originally Posted by Vstarstruck

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Oh boy where do I start with this im not "in favour of time gating" if we didnt have tomestone lock the casual players would quit after a day of every patch and SE couldnt keep up subscriptions. You seem to just want to complain about Eureka I could say it's kind of a paradox that you complain how long it takes and how grindy and awful you think it is, but you seem to resent the fact it's "over in a day" we'll see a major update to Eureka before this tier of tomestones ends like every other relic so this isnt the entirety of the content.

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Originally Posted by Remedi

They gave none, so ye should've said it's a rumor, but a note the aether oils were in 3.25, umbrite came with 3.3 release

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Keep in mind too that this was delayed a bit longer than HW relics. So, we may still be in the starting phase, or we could be heading into a "catch up" phase. It's hard to say at this point. I'm more inclined to believe that the next part will be a catch up phase, given the tedious grind of our current steps and how long it has been delayed for.