Should FF14 take a new route? Discussion

You know what they could do? We have a huge world in Ala Mhigo and the Fringes. Here's something got innovation : let us, the adventurers, help with actually rebuilding Ala Mhigo. Rewards aside, let us actually do stuff like that. The overworld for Stormblood is so empty. Not just for combat classes either... Let the crafter and gatherers have involvement too.

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Originally Posted by KaivaC

You know what they could do? We have a huge world in Ala Mhigo and the Fringes. Here's something got innovation : let us, the adventurers, help with actually rebuilding Ala Mhigo. Rewards aside, let us actually do stuff like that. The overworld for Stormblood is so empty. Not just for combat classes either... Let the crafter and gatherers have involvement too.

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This would have to be done the same way beast tribes develop for each player. If all players pitch in to the development of a place like Ala Mhigo together then once it's completed anyone that did/could not help would miss out.

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Originally Posted by Joe777

This would have to be done the same way beast tribes develop for each player. If all players pitch in to the development of a place like Ala Mhigo together then once it's completed anyone that did/could not help would miss out.

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Possibly. But if gained enough traction, this would just be a start. If it failed, well, hey at least they tried something outside the usual stuff that seems to be in every patch, you know. It doesn't even have to be huge. Just something that could be pretty innovative.

I think the alliance raids have been amazing since weeping city. Raba continues that epicness. I think Eureka is ok apart from painful leveling and potential exp loss on wipe but am concerned about it getting harder to upgrade gear when its popularity wanes since you can't solo NMs.

I think treasure map dungeons are actually fun.. if you don't get shut out by the first door 15 times in a row. I think the story is quite nice and have been enjoying our travels in the Far East.

So... mostly positive feedback from me. Rival Wings is fun but lacks rewards after you have the mount. Somebody made a topic about cheese sandwich and now I'm hungry.

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No, trying to take a new route is causing lots of the game's problems.

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The thing is, can you really call it taking a new route if you just take Diadem 3.0 and rebrand it as something else to try to make people think it's something new? It's still the same spawn "S rank hunt" and zerg it nonsense that we already did in Diadem and out in the open world too. It's not *really* anything new, and it's so thinly veiled that the players can see right through it.

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Originally Posted by KaivaC

Call it lack of support from Square or call it fear of trying new things, but something just feels like it doesn't click. There was a point where I thought about FFXIV maybe needing a new director - not that Yoshi P. hasn't done a good job with what he has, because he has been great for FFXIV and personally, I'm happy with how he managed to salvage FFXIV and turn it into one of the top MMOs on the market. That being said, I can't help but wonder if a new director would be able to take FFXIV into a new direction.

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I agree.

I also don't have the high opinion of Yoshi-P as director that many others do. I think he did two things well: spearhead the launch of ARR, and ensure content updates are steadily delivered. That said, both of those accomplishments are years old. There's no long-term record of success here, and the longer FFXIV remains stagnant, the longer Yoshi-P resembles a one-hit wonder. Was the rebirth of XIV a great thing he did? Sure - but he's also overseen its slow, steady downhill slide (from a quality-of-game perspective if not a sales perspective) ever since. A new director would be a potential breath of fresh air.

It needs some kind of different direction, doing the same thing since 2.0 is a joke. I am really confused how it is still floating. I am around for friends but who knows when they get tired of doing the same thing just reskinned? There is also a psychology issue here. The simplified version is this, the longer someone is invested in something, be it game, relationship, gambling *part of the reason there is gambling addictions* (like say they have a FF house jobs leveled, etc) the harder it is for them to jump ship.

FFXIV 1.0 did not have this benefit so it was blacklashed early. I am guessing the 2.0 changes was from "OMG wow huge turn around" factor and they just kept doing the same thing, at some point people most likely passed the investment point to stick around and hope things change.

The only thing I can say for sure though is that it will die slowly if they keep doing the same thing over and over again, the general mass will catch on more and more as time goes on, I am just not sure how long that will take if they KEEP doing the same thing over and over again. same mistakes, same mistakes, diadem 3.0

At the end of 4.5 a new primal comes out of nowhere and destroys the planet. I data-mined it.



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I personally think that SE should see this as a wake up call for a major game revamp all the way down to the core. I do understand something like this would be a major undertaking so what I'd suggest they do is continue the stormblood stuff and if they're working on the next expansion then keep doing that, but make plans and even begin work on the major revamp to be deployed at the very least after the next expansion. Realistically this game does not have a lot of room to move and there is a LOT of things it COULD do if it was revamped.

The game is still printing money so clearly nothing should change.

A whole new game would be more feasible than trying to change the cash cow and risk losing everything.