There's no good way to solve this problem. I suggested first-come-first serve because then it comes down to how quickly you can get back on--the blame would all be on the player, rather than on SE. No matter how SE chooses, unless players have some "choice," people will be mad at SE.
Character creation date doesn't mean much. Many people have had alts since launch, and I would hope that someone's main character, even if they started last month, would take priority over my alt. Active game time is a pretty good idea, but there are people like me who leave our games up 24/7--we have an obvious advantage over people who log in for events, and out. On the other hand, it does provide a much more realistic view than anything else proposed so far. People would not have their alts/mules logged in for much time.
In any case, the very last thing I would like to see is the "native" players of a server taking precedence. If this was a war of servers, and I had a chance to fight for my server which tragically lost to your server, it would make sense that I should have to defer to someone. But this isn't a war, and if SE simply tells us where we're going, the "native" server's population has done nothing better than/different from the other(s). So it's really not fair that they should keep their games--yeah, I know, life's not fair.
You guys have some pretty good ideas, I hope someone from SE takes the time to read through them. ^^
Because Mychael Danna is almost as awesome as Gath.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gath
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01-26-2012, 02:54 PMMychael
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01-26-2012, 03:07 PMLienn
The funny is that there are ppl that would be willing to change name during server merge. I bet there would be many players willing to rename their characters regardless of having or not name conflict.
Maybe they should simply ask before hand if someone want or not to change name and/or surname, already having most active characters flagged as if they want or not change name in case of conflict. It would potentially eliminate a large part of the conflicts, also already giving people that golden chance of renaming already thinking foward, when new races pop. -
01-28-2012, 05:45 PMMychael
I just thought I'd post some bits I found in Reinhart's translations:
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こんにちは。
Hello,
もろもろ詳細をお知らせできるのはもう少し先になるのですが、大変気になるところだと思いますので先んじてお伝えしたいと思います。
To explain the full details it going to need some more time but thought this was something everyone was wondering about so would like to let you all know.
ワールド統合により同一ワールド内に同名のキャラクターが存在することになった場合、優先された1キャラクターを除き、改名が必要になります。
Upon server merge if there are duplicate character names aside from 1 character with priority you will need to rename the character.
な お、優先順位については現在仕様を詰めている段階ですが、いくつかの条件により優先するキャラクター名が決定される予定です。優先順位の詳細、実施時期、 実施方法については、ワールド統合に関するお知らせとして改めて告知させていただきますので、お知らせまで今しばらくお待ちください。
How the priority for that one character is still being decided at this time but we're planning to make it for the character that meets couple requirements. For details, timing and method we will announce at another time so please hang in there.
キャラクター名やワールドが変更になった場合、Lodestoneの該当箇所が自動で更新されますが、ヒストリーなどはそのまま引き継がれます。Quote:
苗字つきでかぶるとはおもわないけど、名前が変わるのはまぁいいとして
名前が変わった時ヒストリーってどうなるんでしょう？
With last name don't think there will have too much duplicated and not really worried about changing the name but when you do that what's going to happen to the history?
If the character name or world changed parts of Lodestone will automatically be updated but for history it will carry over.
Looks good. :DQuote:
はい、その辺りは充分に配慮して検討しています。多くの皆さんに納得感のあるルールになるようにしたいと思います。Quote:
ワールド統合につきものの、名前問題。優先順検討中とのことで恐らく杞憂だと思いますが、単にワールド順で優先 順位が決まるような事だけにはならないよう配慮願います。単純に考えるとキャラクターの作成日時が早い方が優先なのかなあ、と思いますが‥‥。
For world merges the name problem always exists. I really hope the priority isn't based off on order of the worlds simply thinking might be priority by character creation date.
Yes, we will look into this carefully and make a rule where most of you can agree on.
リテイナーについてもプレイヤーキャラクター名と同様にルール化しています。後日の発表時にあわせてお伝えできると思います。Quote:
リテイナーの名前がかぶった時の、改名ルールが気になります。
Wondering how the rules will apply for the retainers with duplicate names
Same for retainers there will be similar rules juts like player character. Hope to announce this at same time.
おそらく仰っているのは、吉田Pがインタビュー等で「コンテンツファインダー」として紹介しているものだと思いますが、ここでいうワールド統合はそれとは別のもので、現在あるワールドを再編してワールド数を減らすということを意味しています。Quote:
私の勘違いかもしれませんが、ワールド統合とは「各サーバー＝各ワールド」が１つとして扱われると言うのでいいのでしょうか？
確か、よしＰが説明していたのはセルビナ鯖からフィガロ鯖の人を誘って一緒にパーティが組めるようにすると言われていた気がするのですが「ワールドが変更になった場合」と言うコメントもあるようです。
Might just be my misunderstanding but by saying world merge means (some server = some world) I think YoshiP explained about where player from Selbina server can invite player in Figaro server and party together but this is when the world has been changed.
I think you're talking about the contents finder Yoshida Producer mentioned in a interview, for the world merge it's different, it means to lessen the amount of worlds by bringing other worlds together.
具体的な手法や手順についていは先述のとおり改めて詳細にご案内しますので、もう少々お待ち下さい。
We will announce the details/specifics on this one once ready so please hang in there
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01-28-2012, 06:44 PMNabiriI agree with this. Character age should be taken into account. Older char + active account should take priority.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lienn
I don't feel it's fair if server natives automatically get to keep their names. Players have no control over whether they will have to move to a new server or not. I feel whoever had the name longer should be able to keep it (but only if their account has been active for a while). -
01-29-2012, 02:22 AMOranGemeo
Good way to put your mind at ease is to do a lodestone search^^ See if anyone else already has your exact names.
I am all for the person who created the name first to be the one to keep, however. It's really unfortunate if they choose to allow whoever is on the first server to get to keep the name, when those moving have no say what-so-ever when they merge. I believe, looking at my server pop, it won't just be one server merging, but surely several. If the target is 2k players a server (I'd be quite a happytaru)
I was sorta under the impression as well that I thought they were allowing you to freely choose your server from a list, but I could be totally wrong on that :p -
01-29-2012, 10:20 AMindira
NO point of a server merge when they game wont be finshed till jan 2013 @_@
if the game has a low population after the free period of 2013 then we might have to worry.
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01-29-2012, 02:24 PMBabydoll
The whole "older character" takes priority is silly imo. If someone buys the game, starts up their account a month ago or so..and is enjoying the game and plans to continue to play it..why should they have to change their name or lose it because "older" players feel entitled? They both bought the game and both paying monthly fee...the amount of time shouldn't really matter.
However inactive characters or "dead" ones I can understand that. Maybe they could let people /random or something. That would take a long time though. -
02-10-2012, 12:10 AMDoctorMogQuote:
Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee
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Originally Posted by DoctorMog
I guess SE does listen to reason.
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02-10-2012, 12:15 AMMychaelI was thinking about that thread. :3 But then they screwed us in the who goes where... I titled that thread "If ever an XI-style server merge were to occur..." I was hoping for A->B or A+B+C=1. ; ;Quote:
Originally Posted by DoctorMog