Feedback on 4.05 Scholar

registered for the forums just to reply to this. wanted to say thanks, because i had no idea miasma II was added back in, holy shit i totally misread the patch notes on miasma so i had to

i read both of your posts about sch and must say both were very interesting reads. agree with most of it though at the moment, i think sch is in a much better place and i am quite happy with it. it is definitely played slightly differently, back in 2.x adlo and succor were my go to, now, doing savage i find myself doing indom and tactics a lot more for spot healing/topups rather than succor.

i am unsure if i have my stats wrong (trying to stack crit and det), but my succor does like 2.7k average or so without a crit and when most lv 70's have like 30-40k hp, a 2.7k heal and shield feels negligible when i see whm and ast aoe healing for 7-9k non crit.

indom now does about 9k which is much nicer, critting for 13k at times, but still i see ast's aoe crit heal for around 20k sometimes and it makes me cry a little as i'll never hit those numbers. i guess that isn't my role, and i am sufficient at healing end game content now so am mostly happy.

i've used dissipation maybe once in my sch life, fey union i almost never use unless i'm being lazy in a dungeon run and i want to do dps. general consensus seems to be that these two skills are pretty useless right now and need major changes.

I know it may be totally op but i would kill for an ability that guaranteed crit on adlo or succor on a 2 min cooldown...

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Originally Posted by Enla

Largesse + Indominability

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I'm fairly certain Largesse only affects healing spells, not abilities.

In response to OP:

I like the ideas for the fairy gauge and dissipation, albeit if im spending gauge for my fairy abilities I would expect lower CDs or more potent effects. As they would be going from a no cost to a gauge cost. Nothing drastic, but something to make me feel like im gaining added functionality rather than paying for old functionality.

Adlo and Succor though, should just have a flat 150% shield and the crit chance. Negating the base 150% for a 200% in the event of a crit. Thats my personal flavor on those abilities.

Side Note: If you want to use Fey Union, Lakshmi EX is a great place for it. Chanchala tank buster + Excogitation and followed by Fey Union is pretty solid. Healing MT while you get mitigation up for the OT buster :)

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Originally Posted by Phileas

I know it may be totally op but i would kill for an ability that guaranteed crit on adlo or succor on a 2 min cooldown...

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Succor doesn't have the same crit feature as Adlo.

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Originally Posted by Riyshn

Succor doesn't have the same crit feature as Adlo.

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Ahhh that sucks...well a guaranteed crit adlo would be useful to plan even if its on a long CD.

Just my thoughts.

Give Physick a small potency increase to 425 with a 15% chance to cause your next adlo to crit. (Still weaker than WHM, which it should be and adds the nice effect that every other healer class gets with their first cure)

Adlo still cost too much for what it is. I am sure everyone is using emergency tactics with it as our cure 2, but you really need to be careful with it. doable but be careful.

Dissipation needs to resummon the fairy after use time has expired.

Let Excogitation cast a shield at the end of its 45 seconds if not used.

SE has the right idea with Aetherpact ability. (I do enjoy more interaction with our pet now). I still think it is way too weak for 70 move, but still useful in a few tight spots. If you have the 3 to 5 seconds it takes to start it.

Rework Selene. Silent Dawn is pointless and Fey Wind in my opinion really needs an update.

Short and to the point. Loving Savage with my SCH. I don't think a ton needs to be done, just minor fixes.

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Originally Posted by inhaledcorn

WHM doesn't also have to worry about using that oGCD snip

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agreed! this echoes my experience especially in V3S pugs. scholars are great oGCDs healers and can correct some mistakes. but I've been in an instance where indom had just been used for aoe heal but the raid took uneccessary aoe damage afterwards and my cohealer died. when indom is down and the raid is at 15% hp your only choice is succor spam and lustrates. maybe whispering dawn if it's available or dissipation to lustrate 3 people up. it's a tough spot to be in as a SCH.

in this situation a wHM or ast can more easily stabilize the raid. ast lightspeed is my go to oh shit cooldown in this exact situation. I don't have a whm but I assume they cam easily heal everybody up as well.

im not saying that SCH need to have equivalent tools to deal with unexpected raid damage. each healer has it's own niche and It wouldnt be a good game if everyone is going to be a copy paste of each other.

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Originally Posted by paoweeotter

agreed! this echoes my experience especially in V3S pugs. scholars are great oGCDs healers and can correct some mistakes. but I've been in an instance where indom had just been used for aoe heal but the raid took uneccessary aoe damage afterwards and my cohealer died. when indom is down and the raid is at 15% hp your only choice is succor spam and lustrates. maybe whispering dawn if it's available or dissipation to lustrate 3 people up. it's a tough spot to be in as a SCH.
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Succor could fits this bill if it's mana cost wasn't ridiculously high. It just can not be spammed right now

I agree that the Fairie Gauge seems like an after thought by the developers. Fey Union would be much simpler if it consumed a single Aetherflow stack like the other abilities. I would personally love to see it be given a 15 second duration and one minute cool-down. I know that seems excessive at first but I feel that Fey Union should just be a hypercharged Embrace where the Fairy automatically targets the weakest party member in 3 second intervals. In addition to this the Fey Union effect should keep a targeted party members HP from dropping below 1 ensuring their survival. This new utility would be offset by having Fey Union cause a target to deflect 50% of incoming damage to the fairy. Giving the Fairy more damage would make the ability both a high risk and a high reward with the obvious benefit of trading a party members death for excessive damage to the fairy.

Seleene needs some serious love. She used to be my girl and now she's a late night drunk dial booty call at best.