The shatter nightmare!

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Originally Posted by Casca-Hawk

I do agree with some points, people play Shatter like it's TDM, really annoys me when there are only a handful of people in your GC actually playing the mode properly. The rewards are just too good to play another other mode at the moment.

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Rewards same lol

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Originally Posted by Mandudez

You can easily avoid actual PvP and still win the easiest I think out of the three modes. Wins give you credit towards every single mount. People have an excuse to be afk, lazy, leech at home base which isn't contested too often. It's old now but it's still the newest frontlines mode. And I think people are just used to playing it by now. Most players that are new to pvp never even played the other two modes so they don't even know how and just stick to what they know.

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And that brings us to the auto rotation Yoshida said he will implement

After some of the video evidence I've seen of the rampant botting, and my own personal experience as a veteran PvPer having random new people give bad advice, then shoot down corrections/good advice I offer nicely to try to help the team, I'm perfectly willing to just abandon Shatter to the terrible state it currently is. I've got the mount, I've got the title. And while I love the map, I hate the game rule and the bad crowd it's attracted now. SE's reporting systems are too cumbersome, and screenshots/video aren't valid evidence (BTW SE, as a video editor, the amount of time/effort it would take to edit or alter a clip or screenshot just to try to report someone takes only slightly longer than your reporting system, but is sadly simpler.), and for all the reports coming in, nothing but the bare minimum seems to be done.

I'm totally up for trying to coordinate more Secure/Seize events, whether just on weekends, or whenever. Just, ANYTHING but Shatter now.

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Originally Posted by Mandudez

Most players that are new to pvp never even played the other two modes so they don't even know how and just stick to what they know.

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Just this reason why I made these two macros to inform new players of what is going on.

http://i.imgur.com/WsCjNnJ.png

Now, if I only could get the chance to use them more regularly.

http://i68.tinypic.com/9u3p09.jpg

http://i65.tinypic.com/v4s1p5.jpg

Source: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...e/frontline/1/

I know you mean well, but please don't encourage passive strategy in Secure or Seize. It's FAR less effective.

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Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI

I know you mean well, but please don't encourage passive strategy in Secure or Seize. It's FAR less effective.

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Well, there you go. I wasn't completely sure what the rules for Secure really were.

I wasn't trying to mislead anyone but the macro is already corrected.

I know it's a nightmare, but not for me today got 7 Adder victories in a row hahahaha

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Originally Posted by OskarXCI

Just this reason why I made these two macros to inform new players of what is going on.

http://i.imgur.com/WsCjNnJ.png

Now, if I only could get the chance to use them more regularly.

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Thats nice of you to do

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Originally Posted by KfLeX

I know it's a nightmare, but not for me today got 7 Adder victories in a row hahahaha

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Hey lola i kinda remember you, if you knew Dino Bravo you know he would dislike shatter over and over

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Originally Posted by Reyn

The rewards are the same in every other mode.

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Exp wise, yes. However, shatter gives you credit for what? Five different mount achievements at once? Two garo horses, fc horse, and both orbs. Plus the kill and victory achievements on top of being able to win without needing to attack other players.

In my opinion, shatter offers the most "bang for your buck." I started pvp during the garo event myself and shatter gave me all the above on top of getting light for my anima weapon.