Party Finder: MCH not allowed

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Originally Posted by KalinOrthos

It's popped up a few times on my server as well tonight, though they were really polite about it. Had some time to kill before dinner and I wanted to learn Susano EX, asked a couple of learning parties if I could join, and they refused me because MCH has low damage. It's a mentality being pushed because MCH aren't "meta" right now, and goodness knows you can't play this game if you aren't in the meta. /sarcasm

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It's not really a "meta" thing. Most PF groups, especially learning / clear groups, are really bad at the fights and often meet enrage because of low DPS. If they meet enrage with high DPS jobs, they're completely justified in not wanting a lower DPS job in the group as sad as it is.

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Originally Posted by Enla

Pretty much this. Whenever I see any class being singled out like this it's often by players who aren't all that skilled in their own right. MCH can't put out the /best/ numbers right now, but a MCH who knows what they're doing is far more preferable to me than a subpar SAM who is just spamming whatever looks cool. I can't tell you how many times I've out DPS'd the supposedly easiest class to currently play in content simply because they're rolling their face all over the keyboard.

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Couldn't agree more. I play SMN main and started to see PFs removing SMN from primal ex. People who do this only show that they are looking to be dps-carrired. It's sad.

Players will always take the path of least resistance. It has nothing to do with how good they are individually. If they can take an edge. They'll take it. And right now that edge excludes SMN and MCH from SOME clearing parties. It's important to note that you can always just make your own clearing party and people won't give a care

Umm... I'm sorry if I'm intruding here, but is there a good reason why SE decided to put a very tight enrage timer on the EX primals in Stormblood? I mean, I heard it was 11 minutes? Despite being able to clear it (Videos of MCH clearing Susano EX and Lakhsmi EX does exist!) I feel like things would be much better if there's at least 13 minutes before the enemy goes enraged.

In any case, if I were to put up a PF for the EX primals, I will accept anyone, even MCH, and will kick anyone who mocks on a player because of meta. It's just too painful for them, I'm sure. They've been practicing all this time, spending their blood and sweat just to get to 70, doing their best... Forgive me, I guess I was just emotional all of a sudden.

The only other thing that I'd probably make as requirement is to clear the Earth, Sky, Stone of Susano EX.

If that party is locking out roles, chances are it's a trap party.

How far behind is Mch even supposed to be? We looked at the difference in numbers as soon as we could, yet now when I look at both primal fights mch and brd has evened out just about in damage. What am I missing?

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Originally Posted by Lyrai_Celestine

Umm... I'm sorry if I'm intruding here, but is there a good reason why SE decided to put a very tight enrage timer on the EX primals in Stormblood? I mean, I heard it was 11 minutes? Despite being able to clear it (Videos of MCH clearing Susano EX and Lakhsmi EX does exist!) I feel like things would be much better if there's at least 13 minutes before the enemy goes enraged.

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There's a DPS check? I've cleared it easily with 2 MCHs. The fights are pretty faceroll, if people can't get it down by enrage then they need to clean up their game.

The dps check wasn't even that tight in a mix of 290 and 300 gear. If people can't do it at this point then it doesn't matter what job they bring.

It was just a matter of time, at least now its a good reason (if anyone thought it wouldn't be necessary) to buff MCH.
I do remember a few days ago peoples here saying that something like this would never happen (lol) but any weakER job is prone to that, it happens to DRKs (which I showed pictures in another post) so why wouldn't it happen to MCH when there are so many DPSers to chose from?

I have like 5 screenshots of no BLM parties too.
I tried reasoning with the leader (and even had to upload some 99% Lak EX parses I got on the PF) and they still wouldn't relent.
I mean, my own fault for bringing some BLM issues to light.

My MCH friend is now playing BRD and my SMN friend is now playing RDM.
My heart goes out to you (even I'm a filthy meta slave and went RDM qq).