[Request] Opt out of the Echo buff via Duty Finder

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Originally Posted by Grann-Goro

In my experience, a good number of people really ARE interested by Echo-less run, but only after you reveal to them its existence and/or that it can be removed.

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Yes, but if you can't explain how it works to someone, then you don't want to run min-iLv raids/trials with them. Because if you can't explain something as simple as 'type /statusoff "the Echo"' or 'right-click the muscle pose buff' then you won't be able to communicate effective mechanics, and running raids/trials at min-iLv without effective communication is just asking for a bad time. So I stand by my judgement.

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Even if the Echo has a good purpose in normal sync, it has absolutely no purpose in minimum item level and shouln't even exist in this mode !

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There may be some people who want to run min-iLv and still benefit from echo. Do you agree that this is a good reason to keep it? Probably not. But it's conceivable that some people might want that. Your solution would exclude them from running the content the way they want. Leaving things the way they are doesn't exclude you from doing the content the way you want, much as it may inconvenience you to run it your way.

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Originally Posted by Rongway

Yes, but if you can't explain how it works to someone, then you don't want to run min-iLv raids/trials with them. Because if you can't explain something as simple as 'type /statusoff "the Echo"' or 'right-click the muscle pose buff' then you won't be able to communicate effective mechanics, and running raids/trials at min-iLv without effective communication is just asking for a bad time.

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That's not true.
Normal trials/raids can be done without real communication about mechanics, even in minimum item level.
When I do this kind of trials/raids, we spend sometimes more time explaining the "Echo thing" than completing the trial itself...

Of course, if I want to do harder content than normal, I will create a specific group for it.
But then, the "other" problem comes into play :

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Originally Posted by Grann-Goro

Having to think to turn this damn thing off and to check every member of the group every five minutes (after each try) is very frustrating in the long run !

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So an option in the duty finder to completely diseable the Echo would be a great thing.

A BIG THANK YOUUU !!!

Your going to need echo with all bad players coming to FFXIV. Today from them wiped 5 times in Labyrinth of the Ancients because nether team A or B had clue what to do during boss fights and how to use pads.

Teach them and be patient !
As an experienced player in a team-based game, it's your role !

However, if you only play for yourself and with random people you don't care about, you can't use the "echo off" option anyway, so don't worry too much...
(As a reminder, roulettes exist to join new players who queue for a specific dungeon)