Question for all the salty tanks

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Originally Posted by Genoreaper

There is none. But it would get them curious id hope, then they can read one person's perspective on how their tanking isn't broken. They just aren't god of all anymore.
Maybe one less person will make a complaining post about their dps.
Blm can't heal, and is the only caster without raise, but we aren't crying and we went through horrors in 3.0

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I really hate seeing you act like you're somehow an expert on Tanking when your highest level Tank Job is your level 58 DRK and you don't even have WAR or PLD unlocked. Meaning your Tanking experience is limited to nothing but ARR and early HW. Seeing as you need to be level 60 to access the majority of later HW content. That and this also means you quite clearly have not even touched Tanking in Stormblood content. Therefore you have absolutely no idea of what Tanking in Stormblood is like. So please stop talking out your arse and acting like you're somehow an expert on Tanks.

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Originally Posted by Janhyua

If you not mass pulling as a tank in any dungeon you doing it wrong =_= and if a healer can't heal a 2 group pull that healer is a bad healer

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if you mass pulling a dungeon, you doing it wrong imo. just making it more work for tank/healer. Plus the way the new content/classes changes work not all tanks can mass pull easy.

The big issue right now is tanking is taking a step backwards, toolkits are clunky/not flowing well, devs not knowing what they want to do with Vit/St/Tenacity. Not to mention we have reverted to using ilvl 270 slaying pieces from the previous expansion that's seriously messed up and shows the backwards nature of tanking at this moment.

I don't blame anyone for not wanting to play their classes they used to play the whole tank class community is up in arms and we have no answers, no changes, just "it's working as intended guys". It really isn't and it's the biggest fault I have with this expansion the devs took the tanks backwards and we're left with what we have now and I can see all these valid complaints.

I'm gonna continue tanking as a Drk for my static, there's things I miss about my class, things that frustrate me, and things I just don't understand why they are at this time and it makes me worried for the future for tanks.

I disagree with people saying tenacity is a worthless stat. It's pretty good and I m still able to carry as lvll 70 war. I just feel like dmg is divided into 5 cleaves instead 2. I don't have any problems to hold agroo as warrior except om multiple mobs pulls. Feels like i have to spam overpower a bit more. You can't hold agroo efficiently In off stance on multiple mobs. I threw cleaves by 11k each 4 times and once 9k on 301 ilvl. Either way if they decide to change it to str + vit or not I'm set because I love warrior and I can't get to drk. It feels gutted out and not as fun to play anymore. Actually now I m more interested in paladin then drk. Changes were too harsh on drk :c.

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Originally Posted by BigRed5392

by math you mean parser? if so.... take it with a grain of salt. ten does more then you think. and ya it does help.

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It's not worthless, but it's definitely not good. Math has been done on it, at a whopping 1750 tenacity, you'd only be getting a 4% increase to damage done, damage reduction, and increased healing....4%

That is absolutely nothing at that amount of stat points you could invest in something else

I'm a tank.

Generally, I'll pull from camp to camp. Rarely do I increase the pace unless somebody asks me to.

Some times people don't ask and they just pull, I'll do some AoE hate generation to get the mobs on me, maybe pop some CDs. Then we go on our merry way. If the DPS still want to do it, go on right ahead and I'll keep doing my job by pulling it off them.

...............I don't see why other tanks get salty? There are bigger things in life to spend mental energy on.

I don't mind the lack of tank dps, but I would like an increase to enmity.

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Originally Posted by Yahallo

I'm not a War main, and I don't think Tanking is fine in the long term with the current state of things. If this continues, it will become rather difficult for tanks to maintain aggro due to the damage gap between them and DPS, because damage generates enmity. Twelve forbid the DPS forgets to use their enmity reducer (or refuses to use them in some cases).

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Problem with this game is, that you get rewarded for stealing the aggro of the tank. If I'm second on aggrolist and close to the tank I get dozens of VIP-votes for the content. If I use all reducers I have, I get None.

Since the game lacks any parser, PUK-Groups rely on aggro-meter for determing who was effective.

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Originally Posted by Talec

Problem with this game is, that you get rewarded for stealing the aggro of the tank. If I'm second on aggrolist and close to the tank I get dozens of VIP-votes for the content. If I use all reducers I have, I get None.

Since the game lacks any parser, PUK-Groups rely on aggro-meter for determing who was effective.

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That seems.. incorrect. I use Diversion on cooldown pretty much as SAM, and still get commendations. To be fair, I HAVE to use it on cooldown or I rip hate off the tank constantly.

On topic, something does need to be tweaked. Idk if its Samurais damage output, Tanks having emnity issues or what.. but the number of times I have to back away and stop dpsing in dungeons is just getting worse as I slowly get my Samurai geared up. And I'm not even in full 310 yet, let alone the EX primal gear. Something isn't working properly.

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Originally Posted by Talec

Problem with this game is, that you get rewarded for stealing the aggro of the tank. If I'm second on aggrolist and close to the tank I get dozens of VIP-votes for the content. If I use all reducers I have, I get None.

Since the game lacks any parser, PUK-Groups rely on aggro-meter for determing who was effective.

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Do you get mad when the tank doesn't pick it back up right away?