From Yoshida himself

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Originally Posted by Keramory

Not exactly. Using the same example what really happened is the chef gave you something to taste, you tasted it and it was nasty... and the chef got defensive and said it wasn't finished yet.

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Nah its more: the chef shows you your meal, you say "bah, that looks nasty" and he replies with "Its not finished yet and you havent even tasted it!"

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Originally Posted by Vidu

Nah its more: the chef shows you your meal, you say "bah, that looks nasty" and he replies with "Its not finished yet and you havent even tasted it!"

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but people have tried it, and a description of its function was presented. so it's more like it was described as being included with several nasty ingredients and the disrecommendation of several people.

Yoshida also said that anima was better than an i280 diadem weapon and that 2.0 WAR was "fine"

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Originally Posted by Keramory

However if they didn't want feedback, they shouldn't have shown us what they did. Unless they DID want feedback, we gave it... and now made changes to it because of the feed back. Who's to say whm wouldn't have stayed that way if we were completely quiet

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Marketing people are not necessarily asking for feedback but they will get it so they should expect it.

There are many cases where the person creating the marketing material and the person creating the actual product are not on the same page.

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Originally Posted by Keramory

Not exactly. Using the same example what really happened is the chef gave you something to taste, you tasted it and it was nasty... and the chef got defensive and said it wasn't finished yet.

Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with the absolute insanity of the players reactions. However if they didn't want feedback, they shouldn't have shown us what they did. Unless they DID want feedback, we gave it... and now made changes to it because of the feed back. Who's to say whm wouldn't have stayed that way if we were completely quiet

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It's not nasty. People are freaking out because it "wont fit the meta" for savage raids. And they know that after watching ten minutes of footage from a level 63 dungeon. I think it is kinda funny.

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Originally Posted by SendohJin

Marketing people are not necessarily asking for feedback but they will get it so they should expect it.

There are many cases where the person creating the marketing material and the person creating the actual product are not on the same page.

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Sudden flashbacks of Dilbert cartoons....

This is the guy who thought WAR(2.0)/AST(3.0) was fine at launch. So I am taking whatever he says with a grain of salt. I have come to understand even though they make the game they lack the knowledge at the same time about its mechanics some reason. I mean at one point they said they didn't expect Ninjas to be using Huton pre-pull...

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Originally Posted by Ayer2015

Truer words were never spoken.
I was watching a random streamer out of boredom last night, and they were like "The FF14 community seems really demanding". From what I see on the forums lately.... I have to agree,

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I have to agree, I don't really like coming to these forums because I sometimes come away feeling "Do I really want to play this game with a community thats this childish?" But I realise that it's only the vocal minority that spit their dummies out and are darned right nasty to eachother sometimes that and I love the game have a great FC/Linkshells and my BF plays with me to keep me company while we adventure.

Have people stopped to consider they want WHNM to play differently than current? Clearly people want the job to play the same as at present, but perhaps Cure - Cure 2 - Cure 3 will be the direction they want WHM to be played..... The job traits are based around this type of play after all.

If this is the case I hope Cure 3 gets a larger radius.

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Originally Posted by Vespar

The battle system changes. specifically WHM. He mentioned this at the E3 live letter yesterday because folks apparently dont understand what "Development Footage. Subject to Change" means.

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I don't understand why they can't show their latest build instead of showcasing inaccurate information like a bunch of amateurs. They need to stop being a John.