[Devs] Add high-end content for light party too, please

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

there's re NM's SH's darkhold i think they allow 4 or 6 now instead of 8, cant remember. so the only 2 things in game will be moogle and ifirt that require 8 people.

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For most people, content like Darkhold is impossible without 8 people.

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Originally Posted by Synthesis

There is ifrit, DH, now mog... next patch another primal for full party ?

Please devs, add some content that allows only light party to enter 4/4 and will be on similiar level like ifrit or DH, etc. So some people at least could play end-game content.

I played Ifirt like 9x, DH 3x and I wonder if I will be lucky enough to find party for mog.
No everyone can find party SE (I am not from NA or JP and I am having hard times to find party for these events - impossible). I hope I am not alone and ppl will support this 4/4 raid idea. Thank you.

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You will find a party, the party search feature is coming in for that exact reason. Also, you can simply join an endgame linkshell with plenty of people willing to do those things.

Still, having content specifically designed for 4-persons parties would be fun too.

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Originally Posted by Kiote

For most people, content like Darkhold is impossible without 8 people.

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yet they complain to be able to do it with less

As long as the content isn't comparable to Primal battles or anything that would offer better rewards -- Why would anyone want to do content with more people if they can get just as good if not better rewards by soloing or with 2 others? This is the problem with MMORPGs lately, they went from a social type of game to lone wolf heaven, almost a glorified single player game with restrictions given needing to take into consideration network and engine management.

I seen a comment that said "I don't want to play with everyone" why would you play a video game genre that was originally designed because people wanted to play with everyone? Times do change, yeah but MMORPG is very much a stagnant genre -- New MMOs may come out but they sure do accommodate the "single player" play style lately that is better left for offline gaming.

In the future I'm pretty sure there will be more content for light parties, which from what I remember Yoshida said mostly lowerish - mid level content would be for light parties while high level content would be for full parties, and rightfully so.

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

In the future I'm pretty sure there will be more content for light parties, which from what I remember Yoshida said mostly lowerish - mid level content would be for light parties while high level content would be for full parties, and rightfully so.

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I'm gonna have to respectfully disagree with you on that one. In an ideal world everyone who wanted to do high-level content would have access to 7 other individuals at all times. But this is far from ideal. Sure, I would love to have all my friends join up, but I only managed to get 3. So we are automatically excluded from high-level content due to circumstance? That's just wrong, imo.

That said, I agree that the best rewards should be reserved for the harder (full party) content. Yet at the same time there is no reason they can't build a low-man version of high-level content with good loot, though noticeably less so than the full-party content. If other developers can manage to pull off this kind of high-level content balance, what excuse does SE have to be so exclusive?

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Originally Posted by BlaiseLallaise

I'm gonna have to respectfully disagree with you on that one. In an ideal world everyone who wanted to do high-level content would have access to 7 other individuals at all times. But this is far from ideal. Sure, I would love to have all my friends join up, but I only managed to get 3. So we are automatically excluded from high-level content due to circumstance? That's just wrong, imo.

That said, I agree that the best rewards should be reserved for the harder (full party) content. Yet at the same time there is no reason they can't build a low-man version of high-level content with good loot, though noticeably less so than the full-party content. If other developers can manage to pull off this kind of high-level content balance, what excuse does SE have to be so exclusive?

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You're excluded because...? You can get another person to fill that slot. That's the beauty of an MMO. You have hundreds of people in one server; to accommodate and realize the idea of an MMO.
When I think of an MMO, I think of content designed for many players.
When I turn on my PS3, I play a game alone OR I can pop in CoD and play with 17 other people! That's 10 more people than the required raid party in an -MMO-

Why must the MMO genre be considerate of people who don't know how to work up the courage to recruit people? Why not become part of the community instead of hanging out with your friends?

You can enter DH with a light party

I would like 4man content. But I dont want scaled versions of ifrit or moogle.

I want a dungeon at 45-50 built for 4 people. like how totorak was built for 4 people.

I want it to have loot, but not as good as the 8 man content. Like an interim, or if an 8 man group is struggling with ifrit, they can farm the 4man in 2 groups to get a few upgrades and try again.

WoW and SW:TOR has a small and large party option for their dungeons. What is wrong with options? I think some people here are just elitists that don't want 4-man groups doing content they had to have 8 people for.

You can either scale the difficulty back and lower the reward % or keep the same difficulty and same reward %. Risk = reward, not party size = reward. If a 4-man group can kill the same difficulty Ifrit hard mode just as well as your 8-man, then maybe you 8-man groups should pull up your big boy pants.

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Originally Posted by Lucifer

You're excluded because...? You can get another person to fill that slot. That's the beauty of an MMO. You have hundreds of people in one server; to accommodate and realize the idea of an MMO.
When I think of an MMO, I think of content designed for many players.
When I turn on my PS3, I play a game alone OR I can pop in CoD and play with 17 other people! That's 10 more people than the required raid party in an -MMO-

Why must the MMO genre be considerate of people who don't know how to work up the courage to recruit people? Why not become part of the community instead of hanging out with your friends?

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I don't think you get that there are two kinds of people: Those I know and have close bonds to, and everyone else. If I want to just go experience content I can do so with random strangers, sure. But when I want to experience content with my close, personal friends, I cannot do so because there's no way in hell I'll risk ruining that time by adding some random person to fill in the gaps.