Freedom for Tiamat

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Originally Posted by Savagelf

I believe that Azdaja and Vrtra are parents of the au ra race in sense

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I was going to point out that word of god has confirmed that the Au Ra are not genetically related to dragons, but then it occurred to me that you might mean that that First Brood pair might have ended up in the Au Ra homeland, and become the basis for their Dusk Mother and Dawn Father, which is a very interesting thought. I don't suppose we have any idea what color Azdeja and Vritra were, or what they looked like?

Seeing as her own father couldn't convince her otherwise, I think she's there for good

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Originally Posted by Lukha

I was going to point out that word of god has confirmed that the Au Ra are not genetically related to dragons, but then it occurred to me that you might mean that that First Brood pair might have ended up in the Au Ra homeland, and become the basis for their Dusk Mother and Dawn Father, which is a very interesting thought. I don't suppose we have any idea what color Azdeja and Vritra were, or what they looked like?

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http://i.imgur.com/TPG2RHZ.jpg

Talking squares; Dark Blue is Vrtra, Pink is Azdaja (the real Bahamut was confirmed to be the green). The scales of Vrtra and Azdaja could have made the Au Ra of old confused and see them as their Mother and Father. I can't truly see it myself but I won't deny the possibility.

Something that irked me a little is that the dragons go on and on about how time is eternal and 'then' is as 'now' for them, and yet despite defending Nidhogg and his horde's rage for the betrayal of Man, Midgardsormr comments on how long it has been and asks if Tiamat will not finally forgive herself.

I'm sorry, I want her to have her freedom too but.... what is the difference here? ;_;

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Originally Posted by Settiesama

http://i.imgur.com/TPG2RHZ.jpg

Talking squares; Dark Blue is Vrtra, Pink is Azdaja (the real Bahamut was confirmed to be the green). The scales of Vrtra and Azdaja could have made the Au Ra of old confused and see them as their Mother and Father. I can't truly see it myself but I won't deny the possibility.

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Should be noted the bottom one, Azdaja, looks strikingly similar to the Iksalions facial structure with similar beak/horns. Perchance theres a possibility that they in a way may be related. Iksalions were stated as remarkably intelligent creatures so maybe they were made from remarkably intelligent stock?

From the artwork of Othard it comes clear to me the Allagan presence was strong in that area. Could it be that the Allagans crossbred the great dragons, making genetic slaves from wyrmblood to serve their war machine and that the Au Ra is one such creation? Much like Nald'thal splitting into two over time theres a chance that the Genderless serpent grew into two deities as time passed.

They have proven the ability to capture the great wyrms relatively unharmed, so why not make use of them as opposed to just let them rot? A facility such as Azyss lla surely cant have been one-of-a kind (excluding warring triad) with the military base functions.

I believe that the two remaining dragons will be found in Othard and Meracydia/Ilsabard, Azdaja residing in the either of the latter two. Vrtra is a character in Hinduism known for blocking rivers, and lo and behold, Othard has one mighty river going right through its landmass. It also looks like a classic fish eating creature with its long pointy snout- great for piercing through waters and catching many fish.

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Originally Posted by Enur

Should be noted the bottom one, Azdaja, looks strikingly similar to the Iksalions facial structure with similar beak/horns. Perchance theres a possibility that they in a way may be related. Iksalions were stated as remarkably intelligent creatures so maybe they were made from remarkably intelligent stock?

From the artwork of Othard it comes clear to me the Allagan presence was strong in that area. Could it be that the Allagans crossbred the great dragons, making genetic slaves from wyrmblood to serve their war machine and that the Au Ra is one such creation? Much like Nald'thal splitting into two over time theres a chance that the Genderless serpent grew into two deities as time passed.

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Think it's just the angle with the Iksalion thing, I see no actual resemblance at all.

As for the the Au Ra, unless SE just decides to go back against what they said again about them, they are in no way at all related to dragons, by any means. They made sure this was known as fact.

She made her bed, let her lie in it. If she wants to sit there whimpering for eternity let her do so.

Whats shes doing is no different from those guys that whip themselves for their sins or those that PUT themselves in jail cause what they did was too much even for themselves. She feels that to repent for what she did is to be jailed for her crimes she brought upon the world and to her mate.

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Originally Posted by Knahli

Something that irked me a little is that the dragons go on and on about how time is eternal and 'then' is as 'now' for them, and yet despite defending Nidhogg and his horde's rage for the betrayal of Man, Midgardsormr comments on how long it has been and asks if Tiamat will not finally forgive herself.

I'm sorry, I want her to have her freedom too but.... what is the difference here? ;_;

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Even if it's not as long for dragons Bahamut's summoning did happen longer ago than Ratatoskyr's death. Look at it this way, it's:

"It's only been a couple of days since his sister was killed so Nidhogg is still pretty volatile."

Vs.

"Please Tiamat, you've not left this room in a week, you need to start forgiving yourself for what happened."

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Originally Posted by Settiesama

Think it's just the angle with the Iksalion thing, I see no actual resemblance at all.

As for the the Au Ra, unless SE just decides to go back against what they said again about them, they are in no way at all related to dragons, by any means. They made sure this was known as fact.

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Ill agree that the Au Ra = Allagan breed theory is flimsy at best and might have no actuality what so ever.

However the Ixal not having any resemblence i will refute

http://i.imgur.com/ADbP2PZ.png

As Ixal and Iksalion shares a head mold i will use an Ixal as they are easier to take screenshots and wont try to tear off my face when nearing them. As can be seen the overall shape is very similar with exact copies of horn and beak. The big difference would be the teeth not being part of the beak but as my thought of it as a cross one would assume they have taken properties of both cross's. Iksalion have feathers much like the geat dragon should be noted.