Storytelling

I dislike the story cause it's to complex in all the wrong ways.

Take FFXI, A bad guy appears, you set out to stop them. A lot of things go down, and you happen to kill the bad guy. And there was much rejoicing.

Now, lets redo these events in FFXIV. Instead of using force we try and "talk" with the maybe bad guy to see if we can come to terms with him and prevent a war. After that fails we try to understand his reasoning, slowly coming to question if maybe we aren't the bad guys here and he's in the right. After questioning our selves a bit on the matter one of the NPC's we're forced to like, even if that player didn't like them, takes a dirt nap for "reasons". And now you have the will to fight, but will forever question if anything you did was right all while adding even more PTSD and coping issues to our already mostly broken remains of a character.

FFXI: MMO story.
FFXIV: offline game/TV series story.

Sometimes simpler is better, IMHO.

*tosses 2 gil into the cup*

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Originally Posted by Renik

Oh sorry, I'm not even native, i just know that it resembles old English.

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Most of it, believe it or not, is modern formal English in structure with a tendency to use old words or old meanings of words...and it's that particular approach (meant to add a sense of authenticity to the setting..."Man that was epic!" wouldn't really work in what is supposed to be a medieval fantasy setting) that I think throws people. The "pirate" or Limsan dialect can also be tough to follow if you're not accustomed to it, and they liberally use old words and phrases there.

The faux early modern English is the harder (esp if not native to the language) to read way Urianger speaks...but he's actually meant to be tougher to understand and the impression he gives by using what others probably consider a haughty way of speaking is intentional.

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Originally Posted by Voltyblast

better dialogue

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For a sci-fi setting. Different dialog types for different settings.

Also, the player character, while voiced, tended to repeat too many stock lines. Only so many times I wanted to hear my Sith Warrior say "They will tremble before me" or something like that every dozen conversations or so. Incredibly distracting after a while.

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Originally Posted by Ririta

Don't you want to protect your waifu?

http://i.imgur.com/Ydb4fzR.png

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If she's who I think it is, then nope. And dunno, dun care personally...but if you like her, more power to you.

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Originally Posted by Berethos

For a sci-fi setting. Different dialog types for different settings.

Also, the player character, while voiced, tended to repeat too many stock lines. Only so many times I wanted to hear my Sith Warrior say "They will tremble before me" or something like that every dozen conversations or so. Incredibly distracting after a while.

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And you're right but it's still better than waving the hand and to flapping your mouth like a fish (which is also another big issue with this game...I can understand anime, but 3D graphics?What's this, ME andromeda?).
Who is she/he, an italian wannabe with the moving hands? Or maybe I'm a Jedi Wannabe!
By the way I'm italian so the joke's on me. And yes, I speak while waving my hands. Like a Jedi!

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Originally Posted by Voltyblast

If she's who I think it is, then nope. And dunno, dun care personally...but if you like her, more power to you.

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It was a joke, I dislike her :(

They just killed off my hero and then try to force me to sympathise with a waifu...

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Originally Posted by Ririta

It was a joke, I dislike her :(

They just killed off my hero and then try to force me to sympathise with a waifu...

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In all honesty, my "husbando" is Cid...

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pu...s/cid_3184.png

Because you can't say no to that long mane of white hair and that sexy beard of his (and I'm a male so no homo!). Meanwhile, my sister called him Chuck Norris. Heh, I guess it's still cool. Although for females there's nobody that really picked my interest...I guess I liked Ulala but because she reminded me of Ulala from Space Channel 5, one of my all time favourite games.

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Originally Posted by AdventZero

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well u still have the option to just click through the dialogue :P

problem solved , while the rest of the players enjoys the dialogues and story ^^

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Originally Posted by Khemorex

well u still have the option to just click through the dialogue :P

problem solved , while the rest of the players enjoys the dialogues and story ^^

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not everyone enjoys boom boom bang bang hollywood storytelling , coz its very boring XD

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Originally Posted by Khemorex

not everyone enjoys boom boom bang bang hollywood storytelling , coz its very boring XD

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Who said boom boom bang bang? Oh right, you did. I'm talking more like Lord of the Rings level of storytelling here.

They didn't spend 70% of the last two movies focusing on the politics of Rohan and Gondor.

They didn't try to talk with Sauron to see if they could come to peace with him without waging war.

And they didn't spend the whole trilogy making Frodo question if destroying the one ring was the right thing to do, if maybe Sauron was in the right and he should give the ring back to him.

That's the kind of simple I think is better.

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Originally Posted by AdventZero

Take FFXI, A bad guy appears, you set out to stop them. A lot of things go down, and you happen to kill the bad guy. And there was much rejoicing.

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Something tells me that the "lot of things go down" that you just kind of glossed over here would end up putting a particular given story in FFXI closer to what you see in FFXIV, just presented in a less theme-park, please follow the dotted line fashion.