Please put relevant tomes in Main Scenario Roulette

Poetics are relevant for Anima weapons mainly. Or those who want get Poetics gear for 4.0.

I don't think OP meant to take the poetics out, but adding lore or scripture tomes to it as well once you hit 60 would make it more appealing to more people.

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Originally Posted by RaijinSupreme

I don't think OP meant to take the poetics out, but adding lore or scripture tomes to it as well once you hit 60 would make it more appealing to more people.

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Finally someone that gets it. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Mycow8me

It's not going to get any worse for new players than it already is.

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It's already making newcomers want to quit. They complain about the MSQ rouletters regularly in any platform where you see new players - novice network, the new player forums here. Persuading them to use Party Finder instead (they don't tend to know that's an option if they're new and shy) is much better; let the MSQ roulette gather dust other than for poetic farming. I don't see how it makes sense to work towards ilv270 gear by facerolling through Ultima Weapon for the 10,000th time, farming those poor new players like a resource.

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Originally Posted by Serilda

It's already making newcomers want to quit. They complain about the MSQ rouletters regularly in any platform where you see new players - novice network, the new player forums here. Persuading them to use Party Finder instead (they don't tend to know that's an option if they're new and shy) is much better; let the MSQ roulette gather dust other than for poetic farming. I don't see how it makes sense to work towards ilv270 gear by facerolling through Ultima Weapon for the 10,000th time, farming those poor new players like a resource.

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You basically just complained about the whole game bro, I don't know how it makes sense to do anything that is old, faceroll it a hundred times, for some weapon/armor that will be irrelevant next patch. Camon, we both know adding lores to the reward is not going to change anything other than possibly more people que for it. There is nothing stopping new players from using party finder without being forced anyway.

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Originally Posted by Ogulbuk

As much as I would hate to lose the source of Poetics for relic, I REALLY think they should convert these two raids into solo duties. It is disgusting that a new player basically stops to watch the first cut scene, and by the time it's over the whole raid has been cleared. This is a critical chunk of the story, players should be able to enjoy it.

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My thoughts exactly. I'll never forget how...disappointed I felt when doing those two raids the first time. The way they designed it is archaic and needs to change.

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Originally Posted by Istaru

In my FC we offer to take newer people on their clear. We refer to it as "Movie night". They get to watch all the movies and participate in all the fights. If I'm doing it, if I have a full party, we will do it min ilvl, if not, we usually let them kill the final boss solo while we cheer them on.

More FCs should help their new members with things like this.

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That is if you're lucky enough to be in a FC where they can set up things like that. For some, while they do end up in pretty good FCs, availability is not always present and I do doubt new players will wait for members because they don't know that the raid is designed so that party members can still go on and leave them behind.

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Originally Posted by Vanitas

Crazy idea but wouldn't mind a MS roulette with DOUBLE the rewards BUT you aren't allowed to skips cutscenes in there :p

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It'd be less popular than LoV. :p

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Originally Posted by Vanitas

Yes let's ruin new players first experience of those places even more with relevant tomes so more tome runners can force speed runs and leave the poor fools behind even while they try desperately to skip cutscenes just to catch up. Spot on idea mate

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implying that people do not do that right now.

No one waits for people that do not skip, they speed run for the bonus clear for exp/poetics for relic.

For the change, you can, I see no point in auguring against it. People are going to speed run it anyway. A bigger issue is making the 3 ST runs being more appealing to do though.

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Originally Posted by RaijinSupreme

I don't think OP meant to take the poetics out, but adding lore or scripture tomes to it as well once you hit 60 would make it more appealing to more people.

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The only reason to make this content more appealing to more people would be because those that need to clear it are not having an easy time getting queued in. I don't think that is the case, those queues come by very quickly, so obviously there is a good balance at the moment for people to do those (3.0 may change things if the new relic does not have any real use for Poetics.)

So, the only reason for this seems to be desire for one more daily source of Lores, and I'm not sure we need that ATM. You can just farm ARF or GGL HM if you are short on lores.

No thanks. Poetics are required for the relic weapon quests and have provided an excellent route for me to acquire the crystal sand I need for mine combined with the level 50 dungeon roulette which also grants poetics as a reward. It doesn't need to change.