Eye Candy for Tanks/Healers?

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Originally Posted by Grayve

Well, I think it makes sense. The people that play tanks/healers are already playing them. The ones that play DPS aren't going to switch (long term, they might level them) because its not what they enjoy. Other MMO's have proved it.

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This doesn't address bored tanks and healers switching to dps however

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Originally Posted by Greedalox

May I ask what not getting new classes has to do with your mood for old classes besides just an overall mood drop and not an actual focal point for your pessimism?

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Well, in the three years I have been playing, they have not done anything new and fresh with the healer role. Even AST (while I love it) is a copy of WHM/SCH. I was hoping a new healer job would finally bring something new and fresh. But, alas, we don't get one while DPS get two new choices - that, and I just don't see them drastically altering WHM, SCH or AST to be new and fresh.

So, if I stick with healing which I've mained since I started the game, it will be the same ol' healing jobs for another 2-2.5 years.

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Originally Posted by Risvertasashi

Finally, you're right. And the person above me is right. We have 2 super iconic jobs that could pull in people from all sorts of other jobs. While some would undoubtedly have mained DPS already, so no loss... Jobs this iconic will definitely pull in at least a few tank and healer players. How much we feel that... that also remains to be seen.

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But the questions is, is a few enough? Is it worth making Sam a tank instead of a DPS? How is it going to affect the game long term?

I don't know the answer, and I don't think the Devs know either, but if they were going to take history into consideration, its pointing to no. The devs would then have to make the most effective, and honestly the most profitable, decision based on what they have already seen from the player base, and how they interacted with the new jobs that were added.

That's probably why they came to the decision that they did.

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Originally Posted by ErikMynhier

How is 50% of the game in a Japanese-isk area with a classical Japanese Icon made by Japanese developers for a Japanese game headquartered in Japan for weeps? I've seen this a lot today, where is it coming from? Not everything can be Euro-centric, and it comes off a little racist that it is bring this out.

It must be them bowing to weeboos... can't possibly be the guys felt like drawing from their own culture or nothing. That's dumb why would they draw from their culture when ours in the west is so rockin'. We have plenty of castles and knight armors guy. A few kimonos won't kill you.

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Lol, Im not upset in the least about Samurai. I love Samurai's. Im salty that those people saying "2H SWORD DPS OR QUIT" have gotten their way lol. Its personal, the Weeb comment is just a joke.

The main thing is that Healers and Tanks don't have anything shiny and new. We get promises about overhauls but without details they feel like pretty empty promises. The argument that we don't need another tank or healer Job is also pretty empty. By that logic they shouldn't add any new Jobs ever cause we don't really need any new dps jobs either. People get more hyped usually for new and shiny over old with a fresh lick of polish particularly when you haven't been shown anything about what the freshly polished old is going to look like.

I think its also naïve to assume that people only enjoy one type of role there will be plenty of people who are happy to play healers (like the main tank in one of my FC's statics) who may be very interested in making the switch to the new shiny. It will balance out in the end but that is likely as much because people willing to play the other classes will filter back because of overcrowding in the dps role.

Which raise another Healer/Tank potential issue. One concern I heard raised yesterday is that for those willing to heal or tank that they are going to feel pressured to have to take those roles because of over population in the dps role making feel like the choice of playing what they want is going to feel undermined. There are people who tank and heal in statics because no one else is willing to rather than that is their ideal choice.

For me personally it just means the new jobs hold little interest for me so I don't feel hyped over them. Apart from that all we have is the setting to go on and I think I need to get a better understanding of what they intend since right now it feels to me like they have shown me the trailer to two separate expansions and I am having trouble connecting them in my mind. As far as the new Jobs go, my main concern is getting nagged by dps in the first month to help them get past long queues. I like helping out but I have limits.

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Originally Posted by Belhi

The main thing is that Healers and Tanks don't have anything shiny and new. We get promises about overhauls but without details they feel like pretty empty promises.

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This. Maybe had they actually given us even a snippet of these overhauls, I would not feel so disappointed. But, we got no information. Nothing.

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

This. Maybe had they actually given us even a snippet of these overhauls, I would not feel so disappointed. But, we got no information. Nothing.

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This is exactly what im asking for. I'd like info on these overhauls before Stormblood aswell.

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Originally Posted by ShinMoon

This is exactly what im asking for. I'd like info on these overhauls before Stormblood aswell.

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If they follow the same pattern as Heavensward (which they mostly have been, timetable wise), we'll get this in about 2 months. (And, yes, it sucks to be in the dark for so long...)

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Originally Posted by ShinMoon

This is exactly what im asking for. I'd like info on these overhauls before Stormblood aswell.

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I'm not expecting much from them honestly. They couldn't even be bothered to tell us anything about Parry changes.

And their reasoning for lack of new healer/tank is idiotic IMO.

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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

I'm not expecting much from them honestly. They couldn't even be bothered to tell us anything about Parry changes.

And their reasoning for lack of new healer/tank is idiotic IMO.

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Absolutely lol. But, whats done is done.