To people who complain about "elites".

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

Sorry but everyone has the right to play any content they want.

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Sure they do, but under the same idea people that want to pass the content have a right to pass it and can play with who they want. Whilst I would never say flaming these people is ok, people who actually want to pass and are making all the right steps and moves shouldn't have to blindly put up with failing especially from people who show they do not know the basics of their job.

Surely all this leads to is frustration - meaning people then become more toxic and less willing to put up with small mistakes, as they are fed up with failure in general.
I must admit on first runs, on new content I would never enter without my fc. If that means I'm not clearing for a week so be it. Rather that than end up being "that" person in a group or likewise being frustrated at "those" people in the group.

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Originally Posted by Yeol

They simply don't want to waste their time.

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They'd prefer to cheat with 3rd party programs to waste your time instead....

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

Sorry but everyone has the right to play any content they want.

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If a person is playing on a level, that if everyone else in the group would play at the same level, the group wouldn't even have a chance for beating a fight, then no, they shouldn't be playing like that, because they're seriously hurting their group.

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Originally Posted by XiXiQ

They'd prefer to cheat with 3rd party programs to waste your time instead....

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How exactly is parsing cheating? All it does is read the game data you're able to see in any case.

Can you stop justifying being bad on other people? If you'd care about being better you wouldn't be crying all the time. Read a guide, there are 100000 guides on the internet on how to DPS for dummies.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

Sorry but everyone has the right to play any content they want.

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Payers can play content they want to do.

But when a party is looking for people in PF with clearly communicated requirements, than players not meeting this requirements are breaking the rules set by the party leader when joining this party.

The solo tank/solo heal strategy is based on "make enough damage tro skip what is skipable" because if that goal will not reached, the burden to the healer is very high.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

Sorry but everyone has the right to play any content they want.

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But you do...That dosent mean you will succeed on it if you dont know what you are doing.

Its your obligation to tell your party on PF that you dont know the mechanics of a fight before starting it. If they decide to kick you out before the instance begins, its their right, but if they sudenly realising they arent winning and decide to point fingers at the new guy, even tough no one bothers to explain mechanics or demand that you use some 3th party program..Then reports exists for that.

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

Actually, no, you couldn't. GMs have flat out said you can kick someone for any reason. They can simply use the nebulous term "playstyle" as their justification and nothing will come of it. You can only report someone if they flat out mention your DPS numbers.

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Yes GMs have flat out said kicking for any reason is okay, except for parsers, which is a banable offense. The devs have stated that its a don't ask don't tell policy, because it's viewed as harassment. My point was parsing should not be expected to be a part of each run. I shouldn't go into a run expecting to be parsed, and if someone is parsing they should be careful. People are dicks, someone could get kicked for a legitimate reason but if they are aware of the parser they can report you for it, which hurts you not them.

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Originally Posted by ShaneDawn

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You aren't wrong in stating that it should be pointed out about bad DPS, I was just indicating that parsers should not be involved, at least not for a group. Guaging yourswlf is fine, but bringing it up to other players invites possible prpblems. As I stated more in my initial post parsers aren't needed to see bad performance, lol, and you agreed with me so thank you. I admit I probably am optimistic about the group dynamic, but that could be because I don't raid often, savage anyway, lol.

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Originally Posted by AlphaSonic

Can you stop justifying being bad on other people? If you'd care about being better you wouldn't be crying all the time. Read a guide, there are 100000 guides on the internet on how to DPS for dummies.

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Most people playing video games don't go outside of the video game to learn how to play said video game.

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Originally Posted by thegreatonemal

Most people playing video games don't go outside of the video game to learn how to play said video game.

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The ones who want to optimize their play and actually clear difficult content do. Or you know, they actually read their skill descriptions. So many people don't know how to read their skills, it's embarassing. Saw a post about a DRK who thought Darkside increased their damage taken. Keep seeing healers who think it's A-okay to just afk while no healing's needed.

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Originally Posted by thegreatonemal

Most people playing video games don't go outside of the video game to learn how to play said video game.

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I don't know how to take your comment. Either you include yourself with "most people" or you don't which is what I'm trying to figure out. If you don't, then you're absolutely right- a lot of people don't try to learn to play outside the game.

If you do, I simply ask why you're on a forum that talks about the game instead of playing it?