Is this a hack or BRD OP issue?

Well, as a warrior, I'd say holmgang is pretty amazeballs in sealrock.

Stuns (pld) build up resistances pretty fast. Where as binds are used much less in natural rotations, meaning DR often isn't triggered.

Holmgang also pulls the target to you if they moved since the cast, which stuns do not do (this allows you to yank healers behind a wall in feast for example)

Almost every time I press holmgang in seal rock, I'm yanking someone back into a pack, and they die. It's like a "kill this person" button.


All that said. Skills are different in pve and pvp. Bards burst hard. They're also squishey (I target bard's a lot, as they go down fast. Giggity) The point being made was that some skills that are good in pve are garbage in pvp, and vise versa (Tribind for example).

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Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

those where not used, i gave you the full log of 100% hp to 0.
I am confused how much you can use when most jobs are on a global cooldown, this would be the equivalent of giving cure, cure II, medica, medica II, an regen their own cast timers, along with swiftcast +spell not effecting any of those "GC" Why is this allowed?

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None of the skills that hit you are on global cooldown. Empyreal arrow, Farshot, Bloodletter, Blunt arrow, Sidewinder, and Misery's End has their own respective cooldown. Out of those listed, Empyreal Arrow is the only one with a cast time. The rest of the others come quickly and successively right after, and again are not on global cooldown.

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Originally Posted by Eggscellent

Well..... for a start.... why would you swiftcast stone? and why would heavy stop a ranged dps from attacking you? he is ranged......

yes bard is powerful and yes you need to know how he bursts to be able to counter heal, you have lots of pvp skills that can help with that too, purify is the single most powerful skill in pvp, sacred prism lasts a while and gives you a lot of physical damage protection.

BUT DO NOT SWIFTCAST STONE.......... JUST DONT DO IT........ PLEASE.........

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Person was running away so I did that so others could kill them, when you do frontline, all you can do is heal and be annoying to others, a bit boring at times.

Basically it was a 1 on 1 with trying allow others to catch them, so if I cant do damage at all as a healer, why do I die so easily? After the stone landed they tuned around and killed me without me being able to do anything.

Also Holmgang is a free kill, when that is used on me I am unable to move or cast anything? it confuses me, I just sit there unable do nothing till I die

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Originally Posted by Erandel

Bard burst is easy to spot and is really predictable. If you see a bard popping all his buffs, he has you targeted and you have both Venomous Bite and Windbite on you you should either prepare to bene/tetra once the damage hits or even swiftcast a Cure 2.
You are saying you had the time to swiftcast a stone on him, so that means even though tetra was on cooldown you could have possibly survived by swiftcasting a Cure 2 instead. Attunement is also an option.

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What I said was all was used,, there was no buffs, the person turned around after i hit them with stone and I was dead before my GC was ready.

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Originally Posted by Hamayumi

None of the skills that hit you are on global cooldown. Empyreal arrow, Farshot, Bloodletter, Blunt arrow, Sidewinder, and Misery's End has their own respective cooldown. Out of those listed, Empyreal Arrow is the only one with a cast time. The rest of the others come quickly and successively right after, and again are not on global cooldown.

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Can you explain what you are talking about? Your reply does not fit what I said.

1. Saying this as a friend. you really should just let this one go cause this isn't something that is a "issue"?
2. He possibly hit you with Sidewinder at the very end. all of the skills he used are ogcds. meaning they do not follow the global cooldown as other skills (ex. straight shot, heavy shot)
3. No it is not a hack
4. Bard is not OP, BRD has difficulty landing a kill based on range or getting his burst denied in a instant. He may not have used buffs but brd burst is still deadly enough to kill someone off-guard
5. throwing a stone 1 on a dps that is bursting you is not the best option and possibly will get you killed.
6. Holmgang is not a free kill.

how many arrow an archer suppose to be able to fire per second? It doesn't make sense. all of their skills should have 2s general cool down.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

how many arrow an archer suppose to be able to fire per second? It doesn't make sense. all of their skills should have 2s general cool down.

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It's a good thing they don't let you balance things then.

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Originally Posted by Lone-wolfe-02

It's a good thing they don't let you balance things then.

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So it's good to let one job perform 4-5 weapon skills in 2 seconds?

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Originally Posted by Evangela

So it's good to let one job perform 4-5 weapon skills in 2 seconds?

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They're called OGCD for a reason, literally every dps job could do the same and probably do for pvp.

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Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

Also Holmgang is a free kill, when that is used on me I am unable to move or cast anything? it confuses me, I just sit there unable do nothing till I die

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I'm not saying this to be nasty or anything....but ^ coupled with the fact you swiftcast stone...you sound like you have no idea how to PVP. Which is completely fine. It can be difficult transitioning into PVP: Skills that have little PVE use are often kings here. Was you close to him? You could have used Fluid Aura to interupt him for a second to get off a cure. You -should- have Swiftcast > Repose > healed yourself and waited for your team.

I'm not WHM but I'm pretty sure BRD is far from OP.

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Originally Posted by Pence

I'm not WHM but I'm pretty sure BRD is far from OP.

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I'm both. And BRD is honestly a one-trick pony. It has its burst window, and that is all that it has. There are God knows how many things you can do as a WHM to negate the BRD burst. Virus, Stoneskin, Sacred Prism, Attunement, Tetra, Bene. Swiftcast>Repose> Repose. Or just bloody KITE. If you can keep a BRD from planting their feet for 15 seconds, they cannot kill you. Period. So no, it's not a hack, nor is it a BRDs being OP issue. It's an L2P issue. You'll get better. Just stop using "OMG, BRD2OP" as a crutch.