What about Mystic Knight?

Dark Knight fills pretty much the exact role that Mystic Knight has had in previous FF Games... I don't know why they decided to make Dark Knight do that, but it would make the classic Mystic Knight class redundant.

Though I do suppose they could add a DPS version of the class...

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Originally Posted by Fluffernuff

The game further makes no difference between physical or ranged based on roles, iirc.

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Raid Finder actually does look for 1 melee, 1 physical ranged, 1 magical (ranged) and 1 filler. And 8vs8 Feast by now has no role requirement whatsoever anymore :p You can get in with no healers present.

I play as Tank and Healer and I tottally disagree when people say we don't "need" another Tank or Healer. You're being selfish, because we tanks and healers would love something different, even more a Tank that doesn't use a "tank weapon" like Sword, Axe, Katana... And I would definatelu stick to Healer Role if they put DNC, which I've been wanting since tge beginning (DNC was my fav job in FFT). I liked that RDM os coming but I'm not a DPS guy, and I know I'm not alone in this.

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Originally Posted by ChazNatlo

So I'd love a Mystic Knight, been my favourite class for basically ever. However, doesn't the pugilist/monk already sort of infringe on this teritory with it's fists of earth/wind/fire? It isn't like red mage not having it saves the class from "elementally charged weapon" redundancy.

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Fist of element and en-element are watered down- just added damage, and in mnk's case its 3 weak buffs and only 1 is damage. Basically 3 stances. Mystic knight skills are like actual black magic spells delivered by a weapon. The majority of them were element weakness exploitation, which we don't have in XIV. So since weaponskills and combos already deliver things like debuffs, dots, and buffs to the attacker spellblade effects would be more of the same, really just styling the attack animations I think, or like mnk fistd and nin poisons, stances.


I think it'd be cool if RDM (or MYS) had a Runic cooldown. Absorbing a portion of magic damage either personally or party wide and converting it into mp recovered.

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Originally Posted by Brightshadow

All I been seeing in the forums as our potential new jobs are RDM, SAM, DNC, and BLU but what about mystic knight? Many have speculated that if RDM was introduced MYS would be mixed into the job but now that we have seen a preview of RDM it looks like MYS toolkit will not be a part of the job so perhaps our next tank is MYS they do tend to be Tanky. And we have seen enspell used by ala mhigans.

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Mystic Knight could easily be made into its own thing. Assuming I had any say in the matter, I'd probably go for use of magic shields (like the shields used by Mystic Knights in Dragon's Dogma). Probably some form of defensive buffs to keep up plus the standard slew of enmity combos. I did a write up for it a while back but it was ignored so I assumed no one liked it. >.>

I am sorry if this was said already but I wanna get this out asap. Mystic Knight is coming in the form of RDM. The devs said so during the reveal. Sometimes to make RDM be more unique or give it better end game potential, they give them the traditional Mystic Knight ability. And in games without jobs, characters that are RDMish have had similar skills.

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Originally Posted by Blazinhart

I play as Tank and Healer and I tottally disagree when people say we don't "need" another Tank or Healer. You're being selfish, because we tanks and healers would love something different, even more a Tank that doesn't use a "tank weapon" like Sword, Axe, Katana... And I would definatelu stick to Healer Role if they put DNC, which I've been wanting since tge beginning (DNC was my fav job in FFT). I liked that RDM os coming but I'm not a DPS guy, and I know I'm not alone in this.

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I agree with you. I main as a healer. Tanks and healers would appreciate a little more variety. DPS already have a large section to choose from. Why should DPS get two new jobs? I would a love a healing class that doesn't use shields or regene lol. They need to show the healers and tanks some love.

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Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

Roleless content, the possibility of running dungeons with squadrons and changes to how chocobos function should spread out the player base much better than HW's "only way to level is with dungeons or FATEs" system.

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For one, the squadron dungeons certainly won't be around for the launch of 4.0, as well as us having no solid information on how exactly that is going to work in terms of experience gained etc. So you can't try and use that as justification. And the chocobo function changes nothing really, it just makes doing fates while queued for a dungeon a bit easier but people still did that before. We also don't know that PotD will be viable experience wise upon release of 4.0. The level 50 dungeons gave zero experience when 3.0 launched and we could see the same happen with PotD. All of those things might help when leveling the new jobs from 50-60 but doesn't do much to help from 60-70, on top of the fact many players will not continue their mains first in order to play the new jobs, and if those new jobs are only dps roles, then you're taking away tank and Healer players from their more needed roles in queues/content.

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RDM and any other new jobs are starting at level 50 not the current cap of 60 (unlike Blizzard which put their new classes directly into new content). Anyone leveling the new jobs will be leveling with "old" content first.

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WoW's monk started at level 1...

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Originally Posted by Saccharin

I assume they mean traditional 'mystic knight' spells have been given to dark knight.

Anyway, I dont think we need new tanks, or new healers. We need a greater variety of [damage] spell casters. I guess the announced red mage fits that a little but a pure caster is preferable for me.

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.. We have three tanks and three healers.. We have plenty of DPS.

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Originally Posted by Celef

The thing is, if they add 2 DPS what about Duty queue ?
Everyone will want to try those new ones, at least when they are out and when it was not really a probleme with HW cause one of each, we'll end up with huge queue times oO

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Well, deal with it?

First 1-2 weeks in HW adventurer in need was dps, because edgeknight is edgy.