Shire tank gear

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Originally Posted by aleph_null

Btw where did that number come from? I kinda expected the dps loss to be much higher than the stat weight difference since the loss of crit is huge and crit scales better the more you have it, but I never guessed it'd be 14%.

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Because the weights are based off their relation to 1 VIT/STR I just converted the potential of 290.

(290×0.45)/9 *** tanks are different because 1 VIT/STR = 0.45 attack power compared to other classes where it's 1:1 for main stat.

It's a crude estimate but it's close enough.

Stat Weights of Shire/lore
(These are stat weights for shield oath paladin since thats OPs post class. I used my WIP stat weight calculator to get these numbers: https://zamphire.github.io/XIVStatCa...c%20PLDSH.html)
Lore(no melds)
Chest: 342.111, Head: 224.545, Gloves: 169, Legs: 274, Boots: 194.968, Belt: 154.591
Shire(no melds)
Chest: 359.38, Head: 264.312, Gloves: 228.080, Legs: 331, Boots: 203, Belt 165.2

Yes shire is better than lore upgrade to shire. At least according to stat weights. Bust some prototype will be better than 260 shire you can do math easy nuff to see.

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Originally Posted by Judge_Xero

Well to be fair, for those that care. A 5% loss in Stat weight is not a 5% loss in DPS.

On tank losing 290 worth of weighted stats is probably close to 14%. Which is pretty significant.

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On PLD I can do ~1.6k DPS on the A12S SSS fight, at i269 with almost BiS. I really doubt I would lose over 200 DPS by having full i270 Shire gear, that's just ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by Launched

On PLD I can do ~1.6k DPS on the A12S SSS fight, at i269 with almost BiS. I really doubt I would lose over 200 DPS by having full i270 Shire gear, that's just ridiculous.

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Using that weight to damage conversion I've calculated pretty close to actual values on different gear sets I've tried. It would not surprise me given how much stronger secondaries are on tanks than other jobs.

Is that really all PLD does? My Warrior test set @i251 pulls 1600 DPS. That isn't even fully melded.

At 269 my war does around 1.9k when I killed the a12s dummy (iirc around 30s left).

hella ye im goin to get over 1200 parry, soon.....

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Originally Posted by aleph_null

At 269 my war does around 1.9k when I killed the a12s dummy (iirc around 30s left).

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Interesting. Comparing both our gear sets, yours has 545 higher weight.

Calculated - (545*0.45)/9 = 27.25%

It should be 2036 DPS or around 43 Seconds left on the A12S SSS Dummy.

Unless my values are a little high? But I don't think so because the DPS requirements are so low for A12S in relation to A8S, which was 30s left @ i240 on the A8S SSS Dummy.

That leaves Bis with the Alex Belt and Slaying Ring @ +3.5% for pretty much a max A12S SSS Dummy without food or pots @ 2107 DPS with 47 seconds left - VS a Shire Set @ ~1800 DPS

still seems reasonable since you are losing almost 7% DPS from the loss of CRT alone. A lot of Shire pieces are really bad.

I've tested it only once or twice so maybe it was lack of fell cleave crits during berserk (only 5 fell cleaves during berserk), or maybe I'm just not good enough lol.

On the other hand I'm quite sure I once had nearly 40s left on a8s dummy back then with i240 relic, but that might just be due to lucky crits.

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Originally Posted by aleph_null

I've tested it only once or twice so maybe it was lack of fell cleave crits during berserk (only 5 fell cleaves during berserk), or maybe I'm just not good enough lol.

On the other hand I'm quite sure I once had nearly 40s left on a8s dummy back then with i240 relic, but that might just be due to lucky crits.

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From looking at your logs it's most likely just being unlucky on Fell Cleave Crits lol. Unfortunately I mess around around on the SSS Dummys way too much crunching numbers.

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For those interested in trying. You can basically take your set with Alexander BiS Pieces and unequip both rings to get a feel for how it would be in full Shire.

I thought tanks only needed ACC as secondary stats, coz hit enemy = make aggron. and thats it lul, hold aggron is tank problem, cant hold aggron? dont tank, easy.
not enough damage on boss? dps problem
I don't think you need 3000 crit, 3000 det to beat any content ingame

lots of peeps are too sirius bout theyre numbers demn lol as long as you get hit in da face you're an awesome tank xD