What!?!? I just watched that entire video and its a comparison of him using his Sphairai Animus(http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...m/47e66a1e96a/) vs Glanzfaust(http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...m/c070572d9fc/) showing nothing more than the dps difference between both of them and not one thing said or mentioned on Macros......What are you talking about?Quote:
Originally Posted by vp_cmc
Monk Macros with Proper Rotation!
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11-27-2016, 06:33 AMTheRealMadruck
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11-27-2016, 06:35 AMCrysten
Posting in a troll thread - additional points for the clickbait!
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11-27-2016, 06:41 AMshao32
the only way to prove you macro sistem is good is compared with another vid of someone or you itself doing the rotation whitout it and with a dps parser, macros was prove by all top raiders and average players how maximice they job are pretty useless on active rotation with result of a loss of dps and make accidents on tanks, macros are only usefull in a very especific situations like other say for example put a ground aoe under boss feets like arrow flames or shalted heart and to made warning macros.
all ppl say that bcs is a fact from the 2.0 to 3.4 macross full rotations are not effective plus make you loss the capacity to adap you moves better to the fight. -
11-27-2016, 06:48 AMLittlevegeta
Why would you make a guide and then be lazy in your own guide.. why wouldn't you spam the buttons as fast as you can? Your video is to show us how they work right? If you don't spam the buttons how would we know they are working properly... I don't think I need to show you a video of my rotation.. just look up my name in fflogs.. if you can top my parse on Faust z I'll try your macros..
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11-27-2016, 06:52 AMKitfoxI'm not discrediting you because you might not be lvl60, nor do I want to get into an "internet fight." I'm simply stating your understanding of macros and rotational effectiveness is lacking. Look, veterans don't give you flak just to bully you, they do it because you're wrong about competitiveness and effectiveness of macros. This subject comes up every so often among new players who get overwhelmed by the number of abilities, which is why people are so quick to dismiss your video.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck
I watched your entire video before I commented though, I've also read your edited comment. When I talk about fractional timing on macros and abilities queuing, I don't mean what you call a "cast sequence" macro. I mean ability queueing. What that means is you can click on a GCD ability before your GCD is ready, and it will queue the ability and it goes off when your GCD is ready. You can try this yourself. Now try the same with a macro. It will not work.
What happens is that it will not trigger until your GCD has fully passed, it does not queue. Because it does not queue, you can only use your macro as fast as you can click it after your GCD is done. That means you lose whatever reaction time or clicking speed amount of time you have, everytime you use your macro. This is the non-queueing fractional loss.
Fractional loss is something you can actually work with if you really like spamming your macro buttons. Depending on your button mashing frequency, it might not actually be more than ~5% dps loss, but it will be a loss. Your greatest loss comes from triggering random buffs when you should be triggering a GCD. Every buff has a roughly 0.5-1 second animation time. If you trigger a buff instead of a GCD, you cut that much more into your GCD, which is a major loss. If you only have one single buff/oGCD in your macro and you keep spamming it so that it triggers between the GCDs, your dps loss will be minimized, but that also kind of defeats the purpose of your macro. When you have multiple oGCD abilities in the macro and they are all ready, you'll be clipping and triggering them without control and clipping into your GCDs, losing much more DPS than the fractional loss from the lack of macro queueing. You simply do not have enough control over your oGCDs if you use them in macros like this.
If you really wanted to, you could make a seperate macro for stacking all buffs, so that you only need to mash one button for all your oGCDs, that way you at least have the control when to pop them and how many. You should not, however, pair buffs and GCDs in the same macro for the reasons stated. Even a stacked buff macro is bad, because you have no control over the individual buffs and abilities, but it's really the only acceptable way to macro some of your abilities.
Video format is not my preferred argument form so I hope you can instead of accept this text form based on simple empirical logic. Try GCD queueing and using macros in the same manner. Pay attention to when your GCD abilities go off and when buffs cut into them. It's best if you can test and realize this yourself.
If you insist on video evidence, this is roughly how opener + rotation should look like, career mnks can nitpick if they want: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCu5I37GVMY
If you're confident you can do that with your macros without clipping GCDs and using an efficient order for your off-GCD abilities, then all the power to you.
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11-27-2016, 07:08 AMTheRealMadruckI beg you to do so, if you find that the buffs are making the macro drop in dps, as Kitfox has recommended.....remove the buffs from the macro and only use the core rotation for it! I promise you that my macro works, its up to the individual player to form it around their play style and modify it to what they are use to playing. But as I stated, the core of it works with or without the buffs. And to answer your question about why be lazy, my video was to show how to properly use it and not on how I or other individual players speed or reflexes on spamming a button. Every player is different in there muscle memory, showing mine would not have done anything to show or demonstrate the validity of my information. The macros work, how fast they work is based purely on yours or anyone elses speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Littlevegeta
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11-27-2016, 07:16 AMalsims2007Skip ahead to 4:10 im the video. Also check your duplicate post in the dps section for my thoughts on the macrosQuote:
Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck
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11-27-2016, 07:18 AMLittlevegeta
This is the last thing I'll say cause if I go further I won't be so nice.. macros are a dps loss.. if you don't believe so.. why don't you do a parse test yourself with and without macros.. and please do a video.. you won't get banned for parsing.. only if you use it to harass.. Yoshi p himself stared he knows it's a fundamental part of world first groups improving their play
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11-27-2016, 07:28 AMTheRealMadruckVageta, as I have already stated to you, if you want to make a claim to counter my information that I have put out.....you are more than welcome to other than just words and with a actual video of your facts. As for your comment of not being nice, that is on your own volition! I have not personally attacked you or anyone on here and threatening to do so is incredibly rude. You will do what you will do, but as I stated.....the burden of proof on your claims that my information is false can easily be debunked if you create or link a credible source on that information. Until then, you have a nice day!Quote:
Originally Posted by Littlevegeta
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11-27-2016, 07:39 AMLittlevegeta
Get to 60.. gear up and let's test dps