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Just wanted to comment, I don't see PGL as being "stretched too thin" by having tanking abilities. Both MRD and PGL seem to fill a similar role, and that is the off-tank. The off-tank is basically someone good enough to tank regular xp mobs, and in an xp party his job would be to take on the additional mobs that show up. During an event, the off-tank is useful when there are secondary mobs that are summoned, which are not as powerful as the main boss. You get your MRD or PGL to tank them, kill them quickly, and then resume damaging the main boss.

PGL and MRD are both most useful when they are in a tanking position, due to their counterattacks and defensive abilities. However, they are both more offensive than GLA, and I see PGL as being more effective against single targets (as in, higher damage) than MRD (MRD's deal is damaging and getting enmity on several targets).

The only "pure" DD is LNC, and taking only LNC may indeed be the best idea if there's no additional mobs, and not an abundance of AoE. However, seeing as FFXIV seems to be encouraging the "party of players versus a party of mobs" style of play they originally mentioned, I feel off-tanks will be a useful addition as time goes on.

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Originally Posted by Alise

For those who concern problem as PGl role in PT, please look at this thread and vote like.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-useless-in-PT.

@Answer at OP, Yoshida interview on French already stated that DRG will be Top Dps, so MP or not, it doesn't matter. it look like our PGL is going to be some weak class that PT does not want :/

What kind of PT would like a 2nd-rate Dps that can't even consistently use their main DD skill as mp insufficient. DRG not need mp, have higher regen TP rate, and still do best Dps.... PGL only role will be solo :/

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This is how I feel.

The problem I see is that PGL is attempting to be a little bit of everything, while relying on MP. In a game where it takes a casual player only a month month to cap all classes, there will always be a better option than PGL.

Want DD? LNC/DRG is your best choice
Want a single target tank? GLA/PLD is your best choice, MRD/WAR would likely also do very well here, I assume (highest HP cap).
Want crowd control? MRD/WAR is your best choice.
Need ranged physical damage? ARC is your best choice
Need a buffer? BRD is your man.
Need elemental nukes/damage? THM/BLM is your best choice.
Healing? CON/WHM.

PGL, however, can do a little bit of each, minus the heals and buffs. It will likely excel at nothing, and is further hampered by needing to rely on its MP pool, which means less MP for self cures/buffs.

The way the leveling curve is now, there is absolutely no excuse for anyone to be lacking the optimal class for any certain situation anymore. I don't think we'll ever see "Raid/BC {Do you need it} 7/8 PGL please /tell"

Wherever off-tanks are needed, PGL and MRD will be needed.

Now, it is SE's duty to create encounters like this. Oh, what did you say? Moogle Primal is actually a many vs. many encounter? What a coincidence.

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Originally Posted by MeowyWowie

This is how I feel.

The problem I see is that PGL is attempting to be a little bit of everything, while relying on MP. In a game where it takes a casual player only a month month to cap all classes, there will always be a better option than PGL.

Want DD? LNC/DRG is your best choice
Want a single target tank? GLA/PLD is your best choice, MRD/WAR would likely also do very well here, I assume (highest HP cap).
Want crowd control? MRD/WAR is your best choice.
Need ranged physical damage? ARC is your best choice
Need a buffer? BRD is your man.
Need elemental nukes/damage? THM/BLM is your best choice.
Healing? CON/WHM.

PGL, however, can do a little bit of each, minus the heals and buffs. It will likely excel at nothing, and is further hampered by needing to rely on its MP pool, which means less MP for self cures/buffs.

The way the leveling curve is now, there is absolutely no excuse for anyone to be lacking the optimal class for any certain situation anymore. I don't think we'll ever see "Raid/BC {Do you need it} 7/8 PGL please /tell"

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I see PGL taking the same role MRD has. It may not have as much HP, but it has plenty of defensive options.

The Monk = not best HP thing irritates me very much...

Oh, the everlasting rage.

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Originally Posted by Meleena

The Monk = not best HP thing irritates me very much...

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But they do have the best, native, non-magical HP recovery ability.

Monks are supposed to have the best HP pool, mostly because they have light armor, its something I liked about the class, whats the point of giving HP to classes that can wear heavy armor... anyway I just dont like that at all, at least we got decent HP and not mage HP.

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Originally Posted by Meleena

Monks are supposed to have the best HP pool, mostly because they have light armor

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Nailed it in one.

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Originally Posted by Meleena

Monks are supposed to have the best HP pool, mostly because they have light armor, its something I liked about the class, whats the point of giving HP to classes that can wear heavy armor... anyway I just dont like that at all, at least we got decent HP and not mage HP.

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We don't know if jobs will have different stats or pools compared to classes.
Even if they don't it's simple, pgl/mnk received increased evasion to compensate.
The HP pool is the last thing I've heard anyone complain about.