PoTD Compromise Idea

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

Less than 15 minutes per 10 floors is the exaggeration here. Only one I've ever seen go that fast was 1 to 10.

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2 hours is 24 minutes per set of 10 floors.

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

Of course it makes it easier. If something is hard enough to wipe you, then you have to retry. Part of the difficulty is getting to the point where you died. But then again since the maps and spawns are relatively random, it's never going to be the same anyway. Allowing you to skip the prior floors and respawn right away on the floor you died on make it easier because you're skipping the part about getting back to where you were.

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What about just starting again at 100 then? Cos like I said, I have no problem with anything, EXCEPT having to do the boring 51 to 100 everytime.

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

2 hours is 24 minutes per set of 10 floors.

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You said 1 hour was possible, which it really isn't. 24 I could see though if you skipped all chests, though that's not exactly a smart thing to do, so 2 and half to 3 hours is more likely.

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

You said 1 hour was possible, which it really isn't. 24 I could see though if you skipped all chests, though that's not exactly a smart thing to do.

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24 is going at a leisurely pace. I do it all the time.

I actually solo most of the lower floors in less than 30. A party goes much faster.

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

What about just starting again at 100 then? Cos like I said, I have no problem with anything, EXCEPT having to do the boring 51 to 100 everytime.

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I'm going to give the equivalent to the reply that I expect to get from Raiders if I ask for a raid to be eased. Don't die.

http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i-w...-t-die-296.jpg

Re-running those floors is your penance for dying.

No, but seriously. This is how it's meant to be. If you die, you restart. Floor 50 is a mid-patch check point of sorts so I can see the 'sense' in letting you start there. But, I cannot say the same floor for letting you keep 50 floors and respawn on floor 100. The next time PoTD is updated, the gear ceiling will be raised making the current bottom floor more easily accessible. I'd bet it becomes the next check point then.

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

I'm going to give the equivalent to the reply that I expect to get from Raiders if I ask for a raid to be eased. Don't die.

Re-running those floors is your penance for dying.

No, but seriously. This is how it's meant to be. If you die, you restart. Floor 50 is a mid-patch check point of sorts so I can see the 'sense' in letting you start there. But, I cannot say the same floor for letting you keep 50 floors and respawn on floor 100. The next time PoTD is updated, the gear ceiling will be raised making the current bottom floor more easily accessible. I'd bet it becomes the next check point then.

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That doesn't really make sense...because as a raider, dying is expected in raiding, quite often :P But if you say so.

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

24 is going at a leisurely pace. I do it all the time.

I actually solo most of the lower floors in less than 30. A party goes much faster.

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I don't buy it, unless like I said you're skipping all optional rooms and chests, but yeah if you say so.

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

That doesn't really make sense...because as a raider, dying is expected in raiding, quite often :P But if you say so.

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The reply I expect from raiders if I asked for a raid to be ease is "get gud". I applied that same feeling to PoTD and your complaint, and arrived at "Don't Die". IMHO, they convey a similar tone and expectation.

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Originally Posted by Xiao_

exactly! i cant help but wonder how many people complaining have actually tried it

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Wasn't agreeing with you, was making the point that it isn't as hardcore as you say it is.

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

I don't buy it, unless like I said you're skipping all optional rooms and chests, but yeah if you say so.

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Believe it or not, makes no difference to me. But going back to this:

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

You said 1 hour was possible, which it really isn't. 24 I could see though if you skipped all chests, though that's not exactly a smart thing to do, so 2 and half to 3 hours is more likely.

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Are the floors worthless time wasters, and you don't care about the rewards, or not? If they're nothing more than time wasters and you don't care about the rewards, why are you not skipping all the optional stuff?

the only compromise i'd be up for is letting you do unscored 101-200 fixed parties after you've unlocked it once before the normal way.

I haven't actually found a group to do the full dungeon with yet but the idea of a dungeon that requires a vetting process to get into and long term cooperation between a fixed group and is actually hardcore "die and it's over" style is very exciting to me.

if they want to do an easy mode, which is really what most of these threads is actually asking for, downgrading the cursed hordes from silver > gold to iron > silver seems like a requirement as well.

but again... once you've proven yourself i feel redoing 51-100 every time just to try will be problematic. Especially since the best rewards are random rewards from random drops

I'm afraid I'd have to disagree with this idea.

Difficult content should be kept difficult. It was made that way on purpose to give a challenge.
To remove that challenge removes the purpose of that content.

You can think of Floors 1-100 as Alexander normal mode. It's really easy for just about anyone to do. (But still much easier than Alex normal.)
Floors 101 - 200 are Savage mode (as you said). So, it should be Savage. Why should it be any easier? If it were any easier to do, then it would just be like floors 1-100.

The rewards need to match the effort. I think things are fine just the way they are.

If people really want the mount, they need to be be willing to work with friends (or at least make a static of random people), and make the effort to obtain it.
Considering that floors 101-150 have been soloed by many people (and at least one person soloed to 160), it must be much easier to go past 150 in a group.
It just takes time, effort, and a little concentration.