Explain Strength, Please help

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Originally Posted by Viridiana

But. . . the numbers Renta quoted show 30 Attack beating 20 STR in both minimum and maximum damage.

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The point of the image I quoted was to show that a reduction of 20 STR and an increase of 30 ATK had no significant impact on minimum damage, maximum damage, or overall DPS, thus supporting Carraway's 2:3 ratio thesis.

All you have to know is that STR and ATK do the same thing, but STR is more effective, point for point, than ATK.

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Originally Posted by Rentahamster

The point of the image I quoted was to show that a reduction of 20 STR and an increase of 30 ATK had no significant impact on minimum damage, maximum damage, or overall DPS, thus supporting Carraway's 2:3 ratio thesis.

All you have to know is that STR and ATK do the same thing, but STR is more effective, point for point, than ATK.

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Yeah, I know. I was just saying it in response to Tech's comment about a distinction between base and peak damage.

Honestly, I'd say the entire thing (and the Damage stat on weapons) needs to be tested to hell and back, though it might be wise to wait for the patch in case they change anything. I'd be perfectly willing to help out on these tests, too, if not for my unwillingness to go buy new gear to test with. :p

What's even more interesting is that this is further reinforced by the max stats of materia.

Strength IV: 20
Heaven's Fist IV: 30

20:30

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Originally Posted by Viridiana

But. . . the numbers Renta quoted show 30 Attack beating 20 STR in both minimum and maximum damage.

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Beating by a bare amount, and the entire parser is based off of the 2:3 ratio spread. So those numbers are hardly different. Also it's clear the trial was limited to a very small amount of battles.

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Originally Posted by Technolust

Beating by a bare amount, and the entire parser is based off of the 2:3 ratio spread. So those numbers are hardly different. Also it's clear the trial was limited to a very small amount of battles.

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The point is they both simply increase damage done overall - minimum or maximum. The damage done is very comparable whether you increase your stats by 20 STR or by 30 Attack Power - they can be accepted as identical with the testing done showing the difference being low enough to be well in the standard deviation.

On the other hand, I haven't seen any testing to support that one pushes the maximum while the other pushes the minimum - or anything of the sort.

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Originally Posted by Technolust

Beating by a bare amount, and the entire parser is based off of the 2:3 ratio spread. So those numbers are hardly different. Also it's clear the trial was limited to a very small amount of battles.

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Granted. I'm just saying it doesn't support your base vs. peak model. Of course, more samples would make it more conclusive, but thus far it doesn't seem to be going your way.