Should Dancer branch off Rogue/Thief or Pugilist?

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Originally Posted by Xiao_

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[citation needed] for anything ever appearing or sounding as though it was going to be in Stormblood.

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Originally Posted by LunaFaye

Just to be a part of the speculations since it's not confirmed, we might see if added, dancer become the new healer for 4.0 and if that's the case than branching off ninja/monk would be completely wrong and ridiculous. So we better start discussing what else it could/should branch off from since it might not be added at all or as a non dps class.

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It's not THAT ridiculous. Our only other existing branching class has SCH come off of ACN, and minus two spells (and discounting support abilities, which PGL also has), ACN is all DPS. Granted, DNC's level 30 ability (assuming the job is unlocked at 30) would need to be pretty spectacular so that it can successfully operate as a healer with only one healing ability from levels 30 through 34, but that just makes it difficult, not impossible to implement.

Again, though, not gonna happen. Not because it can't be done, but because creating a new, class-independent job is just so much easier. The job branching system is simply too difficult to be worthwhile.

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Originally Posted by LineageRazor

It's not THAT ridiculous. Our only other existing branching class has SCH come off of ACN, and minus two spells (and discounting support abilities, which PGL also has), ACN is all DPS.

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The only reason they were able to split ACN into a healer role at all is because it was a summoning class. Changing Carbuncle into Eos moves a lot of DPS into healing. A similar method would not work on a non-summoning class; to split any other class into two roles would require some entirely novel approach.

The last good branch class I could have imagined would have been Archer > Ranger/Bard or Rogue > Thief/Ninja/Assassin.

May as well let Dancer do its own thing. Chances are it'll homogenize itself just fine regardless...

i would not be surprised at all if within 2 expansions scholar and summoner become their own jobs split away from the acn class completely and in that time, classes themselves would probably get removed entirely. theyve already mentioned a revamp of the cross class system, it probably will no longer require you to level classes to get the cross skills that are role=based. All of these and bonus stats come as a relic from 1/x which this game is rapidly moving way away from atm

I expect in time Scholar might become its own 'advanced job'. It's just the easiest route.

However, the other way to do it would be to stop class advancement at 30, tie everything after that to the job stone.
So Pugilist for example gets Demolish from the last class quest and then that's it, done. Fists of Wind, Mantra, Enhanced Greased Lightning II, they're all from leveling the stone itself. If you wanted to make Dancer a job branching from pugilist for some reason, you'd then have 40 levels free with which to differentiate it from Monk.

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Originally Posted by Khubla_Kha

[citation needed] for anything ever appearing or sounding as though it was going to be in Stormblood.

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hey man, you're the one claiming a 100% certainty so maybe you can share your source

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Originally Posted by LineageRazor

To be fair, RDM is all but confirmed, now. Very few people actually believe it's not coming. DNC is still very much up in the air, with lots of folks believing its coming and plenty who believe otherwise, so it makes some sense that folks would debate more about it.

I, too, highly doubt that DNC will split off of another class, but if it did, my guess would be from PGL, not ROG. If the lady in red from the Stormblood trailer WAS meant to be a hint of DNC on the way (and not just a really sexy MNK), it's clear that DNC will be a class that uses hand-to-hand martial arts.

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I don't get it. HW trailer was basically about dragons and derplander being drg, and other dragoons. So it was basically job/scenario trailer.
Stormblood trailer is basically derplander being mnk, in a very mnk-like setting.
so......why would a dancer be fighting a monk, on top of a "buddha" statue??
what part of her says dancer? that's she's doing kata/qigong or whatever it's called - it's common in every eastern martial art movie/setting; that doesn't make martial arts movies, musical/dance movies.
like; just watch any martial arts movie, and basically every master, will be doing that stuff.
it's not dancing, and she's not a dancer.

Dancer doesn't exist yet.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

Dancer doesn't exist yet.

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Vanu tribe uses dancing, to cause AOE fear :p
they even do DNC LB in a cutscene! it's super effective.