Why samurai is much more possible as a dps than you think

I'm curious as to why people want a SAM, the katana wielding variant anyways, to be a DPS role specifically.

Because apparently unlike other MMO's, Tanks are not solely meatwalls and are more akin to frontline fighters more than anything.

For me anyways to put a SAM, the japanese equivalent of a Knight or WARRIOR, on the back of an enemy next to a NIN(assassin/thief/archer caste), is just so thematically wrong I cannot possibly comprehend how anyone would want that. SAM's have a known code of honor that is apart of their identity; Bushido. It literally means the way of the WARRIOR.

DRG I can understand since they developed their craft through approaching Dragons at different angles(jumps) so are more at home to striking an enemy from an advantageous position but SAM? Historically AND fantasy-wise, I've always seen them as brave, proud WARRIORS who challenged their foes head on in fair and square combat. Victory through skill rather than trickery sort of deal.

I personally would find it very jarring to see SAM get crushed by the tank classes in Duels because I see them belonging to that group. I say this but I will enjoy crushing ya'll dirty SAM DPS fanboys under my glorious viking heel(WARRIOR).

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Originally Posted by Balipu

1. Each class has very strong lore ties to the city states they appear in. This is less true for the jobs.

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Frankly, for most classes, the lore is pretty much self contained. I've yet to see a class NPC being relevant outside of the class storyline, especially since its stops at lvl 30 even if you learn classes skills up to 50.

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Originally Posted by Balipu

3. Traits, hunting logs and skills from leveling up are all things that classes have and jobs don't.

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DRK, AST and MCH already earns traits and skills by levelig, and I'd like the hunting to be available for them and increased to lvl 60. It only asks you to kill existing monsters, it shouldn't be that difficult to do...

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Originally Posted by Balipu

4. Just handing you a new job with the hotbar half filled with skills just creates a needless mess. Especially since PotD already requires the HW jobs to level from 1 gradually.

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This is only a problem when you start at level 30. If classes are replaced by jobs, you'd start jobs at level 1...while still keeping the possibility of advanced jobs.

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Originally Posted by FallenWings

I'm curious as to why people want a SAM, the katana wielding variant anyways, to be a DPS role specifically.

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I'd say personal taste and FFXI nostalgia, like Dark Knight.

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Originally Posted by FallenWings

I'm curious as to why people want a SAM, the katana wielding variant anyways, to be a DPS role specifically.

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Because well over 80% of the playerbase just wants to play DPS jobs. besides WHM and PLD every job that exists, at least half the people would prefer it be a DPS. and yes that includes SCH and AST, lots more people would play those if they were some kind of support DPS caster job.

Personally, i want SAM to be DPS solely so RDM would be the tank job.

Tanks and healers share gear? Since when?

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Originally Posted by Renius

Tanks and healers share gear? Since when?

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he means there's a Fending set and a Healing set, but there's no Slaying set used by DRG and MNK, and NIN can't use the Aiming armor pieces nor can they use the MNK pieces at high level.

Samurai will work as a DPS because Yoshida already said that he doesn't want to make Samurai a tank. Kinda beats logic and reasoning for or against the idea.

Samurai will most likely be a dps who specializes in attacks from the flank. It can't be a attack from rear dps due to lore and history reasons. However Aurun from ffX was a very tanky person and his body guard mentality showed it.

But as a tank myself I think it should be a dps. DF be damned

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Originally Posted by KitingGenbu

Samurai will work as a DPS because Yoshida already said that he doesn't want to make Samurai a tank. Kinda beats logic and reasoning for or against the idea.

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Except he absolutely hasn't said that at all.

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Originally Posted by Shippuu

Except he absolutely hasn't said that at all.

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In a Interview he said he sees Samurai more as a DPS than a Tank. IF he had to pick between them personally he would make it a DPS.

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Originally Posted by FallenWings

I'm curious as to why people want a SAM, the katana wielding variant anyways, to be a DPS role specifically.

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An old FF classic job, and has been a damage dealing job in pretty much every game it has been in, Not to mention that DPS jobs are much easier to use which is why most of the player base wants it a DPS, so people want a classic favorite to be easy for them. But yoshi already said he wants the job to be a DPS, so it's likely to happen. This is also why people were really upset when DRK turned out to be a tank, and why during it's release Many people were trying to play it LIKE a DPS.