Another Book closes [SPOILER DISCUSSION]

As of now I've encountered a lost lala "staff-spinning adventurer" and a roe pirate "frenzied freebooter". Are they from other quests? Haven't seen the lancer quest duskwight

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Originally Posted by Dalvy

As of now I've encountered a lost lala "staff-spinning adventurer" and a roe pirate "frenzied freebooter". Are they from other quests?

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I posted a write-up on the backstories of those that have been identified here, though we're all still trying to identify the Immortal Flame, lol.

Do you happen to have a picture of Flame Commander Ryder? Closer inspection revealed that the currently unidentified Flame does, in fact, have what Midlanders typically try to pass off as a beard, but not remembering what the original NPC looks like, it may not actually matter.

EDIT: Scratch that, they look nothing alike, looking at the pictures in the comments. For one thing, the ages are completely wrong. The dialogue seems to fit, so maybe it's just a production error?

Yeah, unfortunately Mad Snake had the Baderon-Midlander face with like, an actual beard and looking like he's gotten past the ripe old Midlander age of 20-something. At least, it's a beard and mustache by my standards. It would be really awesome if it was him, but I'd be so disappointed that they included him and then messed up his model. He's also bald and didn't wear a helmet.

Either way, the Immortal Flame looks way too young and he'd be our ONLY non 2.0 character in the Palace, but these weird exceptions do exist because Foulques dies way later than the others. (The rest all die BEFORE "The [city] Envoy," and Foulques should die after; 2.0 Lv17 vs 2.0 Lv30)

Alternately, and this explains everything, the Palace of the Dead operates on rules similar to the Egyptian afterlife (or the Star Wars classic trilogy remasters), in which all who dwell there are as they were in their prime (around age 20, which also means those who die young age forward). So it is Mad Snake, but he's younger because real-world rules need not apply.

If nothing else, we now know why the place is called the Palace of the Dead, filled as it is with so many things that shouldn't be alive.

My brain has also jumped to wondering whether the "robed figure" is a named or lesser ascian, because that it would be an ascian is something I'm presuming is a given.
If not, that's one really good red herring to lay down...

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

I believe I've identified all 8 of the NPCs, but I didn't see Leavold...

Are you absolutely sure it was Leavold?

This Guy?

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I've identified the following:

Foulques
Duskwight Lancer: “Impossible! M-My courage is...absolute...”

Dolorous Bear
Sword-swinging Adventurer: “We said we'd...make a name for ourselves...”

Kikina
Staff-spinning Adventurer: “Wh-What is this place? Where are the others?”

E'manafa
Spear-shaking Adventurer: “Oh, Dolorous. Even in death...I will always...”

Janremi Blackheart
Ishgardian Pikeman: “I must have that chocobo egg... It's the only way...”

Garibald the Fargone
Roughspun Ruffian: “I am undying...? Was it the elixir?”

Baenryss of the Deep
Frenzied Freebooter: “You hear that, lads? The sea's callin' me home...”

???
Immortal Flame: “Where are my men...? Clovissoix, Dhavha!”

The Flame still puzzles me. He's got the same face / outfit as a dozen throwaway NPCs, but his last words reference two NPCs that were never in A Realm Reborn. Those are two Flames assigned to Jagged Crest Cave for the assault on Castrum Novum during United We Stand. I think he was a member of Flame Commander Jakys Ryder's unit, which perished in the Battle of Cartenau (unless this guy survived his two comrades and made it to A Realm Reborn).

Anybody got an idea for a name?

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He might be nameless, one of the victims from the Ifrit quest possibly?

Wouldn't it be possible for someone like our friend Archbishop Thordan to appear in the Palace? Even tempered are not safe from those halls.

I feel really bad for Foulques, being a restless soul , trapped in that palace and unable to pass on

Could the immortal flame be Flame Sergeant Dalvag, as he was before dying?

Wait Dolorous Bear died? I must've missed that bit.