For those vote abandon after 1-2 wipe... srsly?

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Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox

Really? Cause I'm 200% positive that you and your friend Submissive Bear were two of the people in my last Ozma clear that kept screaming at my alliance to stop dying on the final phase despite us telling everyone we had 6 new players to contented with. So yes, I think Seoulstar is right in saying that overreacting plays apart in people using vote abandon and how they judge players. Given on the 3rd try we blew through Ozma and downed Calofisteri first attempt.

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I did mention to stop dying once (I remember that part for sure, but no screaming was involved unless you consider "CAN YOU GUYS PLEASE STOP DYING." screaming), then someone else on my alliance mentioned something about our alliance carrying the rest (which wasn't true by the way, we had a bad tank, bad bard, and one of the Summoners had low DPS).

I did leave after the third wipe, but only because the person I was helping decided to leave. If you downed him after we left, that would make that the fourth attempt.

Congratulations on your clear though.

I normally find after 2nd or 3rd fail the person who initiated multiple vote abandons leaves. After this we get a new player and we clear the dungeon straight away.

This is why when I raid I switch my chat to battle because of the hot headed ocd players that rage for the dumbest things.I have nothing against new people.They have to learn and there is nothing worth getting mad about.In short I gave up on people.My character name is lost hope for a reason.I wish emotionally immature people would stop playing.

I don't know the frequency, but it seems to be more often than not, when someone initiates the Vote Abandon, usually they are, if not the entire problem, a significant source of the problem.

I don't know if it is people wanting a carry, people not wanting to carry others, or just PMS ...

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Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox

It just seems while most of this community asked for harder non raid content, the ones who can handle it don't want to give people who aren't used to it the chance to breathe and learn it. Pretty sad actually.

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This. Funny seeing all the "pls don't nerf Wiping City" threads while in game you get people raging after 1 wipe during the first reset.

To those who get frustrated in bad groups. Content being harder for you also means it's harder for others, so while you enjoy the new challenge others might struggle to figure out the mechanics you already figured out. Teach and be patient, and maybe things won't get nerfed this time. It's up to us as a community to show we can handle it.

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Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder

I don't know if it is people wanting a carry, people not wanting to carry others, or just PMS ...

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All of the above...

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Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder

I don't know the frequency, but it seems to be more often than not, when someone initiates the Vote Abandon, usually they are, if not the entire problem, a significant source of the problem.

I don't know if it is people wanting a carry, people not wanting to carry others, or just PMS ...

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I agree this is the case 9/10 times