Fairy Glam

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Originally Posted by CuteWhisper

I know why they did it but like you said it is very lazy and I am pretty sure we will never get new fairies either therefore I think SCH should get the glamours as well.

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I just don't understand why it's so difficult for them to do something right. I think they should just stop being lazy instead for using there resources on flying mounts or making everything fly. Give SCH new Fairys with new abilitys that are balanced and give summoner new Egi's with new abilitys that are balanced. Don't care if it comes out in patch 5 or 6 just as long as it's done correctly.

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Originally Posted by tjw

Actually, Blackcanary is correct in that SCH has NEVER had access to Carbuncle. Not ACN. Not SMN. Purely SCH access.

SMN gets to use Carbuncle before they do their job quests. Summon and Summon II still summon Emerald and Topaz Carbuncle respectively if you haven't received the Garuda/Titan-Egis. SCH on the other hand instantly get their summons replaced by the faerie; in that sense, the SCH job has never had carbuncle, nor does it have the right to it.

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No, I knew that summoners got to use Carby's a little bit longer. The fact stands that ACN is still a part of SCH as well as SMN. ACN has Carbuncles and every person who has ever EVER wanted to become and has become a SCH has used a Carbuncle. The same as SMNs want to use Carby's cuz their's got turned into Egis is the EXACT same reason SCHs want to use Carby's too. Just 'cuz SMN got to use Carby's for a few more levels doesn't justify throwing out the window the fact that SCHs *DID* use Carby's, even if it was just in ACN form. :(

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Originally Posted by Indiction

No, I knew that summoners got to use Carby's a little bit longer. The fact stands that ACN is still a part of SCH as well as SMN. ACN has Carbuncles and every person who has ever EVER wanted to become and has become a SCH has used a Carbuncle. The same as SMNs want to use Carby's cuz their's got turned into Egis is the EXACT same reason SCHs want to use Carby's too. Just 'cuz SMN got to use Carby's for a few more levels doesn't justify throwing out the window the fact that SCHs *DID* use Carby's, even if it was just in ACN form. :(

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You seem to be funding it hard to understand, SCH was never able to use Carby. When u first used the job stone you was not able to use Carby.
That's what we are saying/trying to explain when people say

" Bring Carby back to SCH."

People need to stop acting like you was able to summon Carby when you became s SCH because you didn't. You never had the spell to summon him as a SCH. Now I would I understand if that spell was avaliable when u first use the SCH stone. Then suddenly SE made it so u could no longer summon him. Like they did with SMN. But you couldn't and they didn't do that to SCH. So why should SCH get something back that they never had in the first place.

You like Carby you want SCH to have the ability to summon him that's fine. I'm all about that life cause Carby is bad ass. But they would have to work it into the lore which is easy on their part. But people need to stop stating things that is not fact.

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Originally Posted by Blackcanary

You seem to be funding it hard to understand, SCH was never able to use Carby. When u first used the job stone you was not able to use Carby.
That's what we are saying/trying to explain when people say

" Bring Carby back to SCH."

People need to stop acting like you was able to summon Carby when you became s SCH because you didn't. You never had the spell to summon him as a SCH. Now I would I understand if that spell was avaliable when u first use the SCH stone. Then suddenly SE made it so u could no longer summon him. Like they did with SMN. But you couldn't and they didn't do that to SCH. So why should SCH get something back that they never had in the first place.

You like Carby you want SCH to have the ability to summon him that's fine. I'm all about that life cause Carby is bad ass. But they would have to work it into the lore which is easy on their part. But people need to stop stating things that is not fact.

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Never once in my post did I say SCH could use Carby's, friend. You seem not to have read...any or most...of my post but okay. I said ACN was able to use Carby's.

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ACN has Carbuncles and every person who has ever EVER wanted to become and has become a SCH has used a Carbuncle.

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Just 'cuz SMN got to use Carby's for a few more levels doesn't justify throwing out the window the fact that SCHs *DID* use Carby's, even if it was just in ACN form.

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Now that we've cleared up those errors in reading, again I state, ACN was a part of SCH. Do SCHs magically stop becoming ACN once they get their job stone? NO. That's why it's called a base class. Did ACN use Carbuncles? Yes, they did.

What you're saying is every SCH somehow magically skipped the first 30 levels and never got to use one and isn't an ACN but okay. Yes, gods, I understand SMN got to use them a bit longer, but Carby's are first and foremost an ACN SUMMON. ACN isn't just magically summonless until you unlock SMN, Carby's are an ACN thing. Isn't every SMN and every SCH an ACN?

I forgot that when you become your job, you forget everything your class quests taught you, even is if it's fundamental to the class. People should stop using their dots. Delete physick as well. Those belong to arcanist. Those are arcanist skills. You are afterall, a scholar now. You shouldn't be using any skills from that class. You forgot how they worked remember?

My mistake.

They could have introduced fairies in two parts, but the current lore works just fine and scholars having the real carby would cause balance issues early on with summoner.

For the Lore maybe a new memory part or something like that and tadaaa new look ^^? That'll be cool.
I'd love to see Eos with a new haircut, or a Fairy Tsundere Glam *o* !!!

This "SCHs should get this because SMNs are getting it too" argument is silly. They're different roles, with different identities. The SMN identity is that they can call forth different Pets (Egi) into battle, which SE aim to represent via this glamour system. Right now SMN has 3 Pets, so does that mean SCH should've got Summon III as a skill too? No, because it's set up to be a different Job and not something that has to have parity with SMN all the time.

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Originally Posted by Blackcanary

I just don't understand why it's so difficult for them to do something right. I think they should just stop being lazy instead for using there resources on flying mounts or making everything fly. Give SCH new Fairys with new abilitys that are balanced and give summoner new Egi's with new abilitys that are balanced. Don't care if it comes out in patch 5 or 6 just as long as it's done correctly.

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Can you suggest what balanced new abilities a new fairy aspect would have? Eos and Selene cover support and healing pretty well and SCH really don't need more mitigation. Its the same reason they didn't add new Egis. What would be the new Egi's speciality?

That's not lazy. Its the basics of class design.

Personnaly I don't want a new fairy and new skill (maybe laaater in the futur if we hit lvl 70-80)
I just want glam Eos or Selene With a new fairy look. No egi no carby, just new look or effect for my dear fairy <3

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Originally Posted by JasonOuah

I just want glam Eos or Selene With a new fairy look. No egi no carby, just new look or effect for my dear fairy <3

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I would be totally okay with that, I am just a bit tired of always staring at the same fairy, it would spice it up a bit. I really hope the glam will be for SCH too.