PVP Thoughts and Suggestions!

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Originally Posted by Gryzz

I did visit shinryu, I didn't really talk to anyone though. I mostly hung out at this FC mansion that had the top PvPers and ran frontline.

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Do you remember me? I'm the highlander you've met at Mist MB lol. Glad I found you here :o

(If you didn't remember then sorry if I met wrong person :p )

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Originally Posted by Eul

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It was a while back. I can't remember for sure, but if it was a big roegadyn in a chocobo mask, that twas definitely me lol. Good to see you though, and I really miss those 1m ques on Shinryu.

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Originally Posted by Gryzz

It was a while back. I can't remember for sure, but if it was a big roegadyn in a chocobo mask, that twas definitely me lol. Good to see you though, and I really miss those 1m ques on Shinryu.

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Yup, definitely you. Before you meet me when I'm crafting lol. And joining Twin Adder right?

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Originally Posted by Nalien

No, that gear isn't what keeps dungeons alive, the tomestone rewards are, and that's what Wolf Marks should effectively be IMO...

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The concept is hard to translate however. Tomestones, especially the most recent one people actually care about, provide gear progression, something wolf marks used to via morale rating, but that only turned people away from PvP because where in PvE, playing with someone in better gear is beneficial to you, in PvP, you compete with them, thus making it detrimental. That's how we ended up with these awkward materias and pointless morale.

In addition, wolf marks are not weekly capped and as such, rewards for it can at best be comparable to esoteric tomes, the most recent uncapped tomestone. Otherwise PvP would be the only place where the progression gating can be circumvented, which is likely not in SEs interest. As such, you are left with outdated gear and fluff like minions, orchestrion rolls and furnishings, maybe a few crafting mats you can offer. Do you think that would suffice to make it the main reward? I'm fairly sceptical. Plus, as I said, I remain of the opinion that the main issue is the gameplay, not the rewards - intrinsic motivation beats extrinsic motivation any day. But maybe I just studied human resource management too long >_>

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Originally Posted by Eul

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Ahh! Okay, I remember you now. Yup, did fight for Twin Adders at the time. I'm back on Immortal Flames now. How do you like Feast? Playing PvP there is much different. Maybe I'll be back there again when the new FL drops.

IMO Feast is enjoyable here (But not if you met newbie healer) and RNG too. And I prefer Seal Rock more than Feast.

All I really want is the ability to 1v1 asap. And I don't want it to be instanced either, I want to be able to challenge someone to a 1v1 out in the world and just go at it.

This way I could train with my friends while I wait in queue for the feast or frontlines.

I don't care if its going to be unbalanced, its just for fun anyway. A zone where pvp is allowed and we could just go there to kill each other would be nice too :D

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Originally Posted by Gryzz

Ahh! Okay, I remember you now. Yup, did fight for Twin Adders at the time. I'm back on Immortal Flames now. How do you like Feast? Playing PvP there is much different. Maybe I'll be back there again when the new FL drops.

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Should join me on Balmung ;D Also check your Skype!

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Originally Posted by Zojha

Plus, as I said, I remain of the opinion that the main issue is the gameplay, not the rewards - intrinsic motivation beats extrinsic motivation any day. But maybe I just studied human resource management too long >_>

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Well, I'm not saying they shouldn't improve the gameplay of PvP, I just see that as a fairly big task, meanwhile improving Wolf Mark rewards should be fairly simple. Slap materia and most of what you can get with Poetics/Esoterics and Wolf Marks become a really great reward, more so considering you're getting Esoterics as well...