So, them Allagans... (possible spoilers)

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Originally Posted by Frederick22

Even if I understand the use of the crystal tower, I stil gotta dissagreed Fenral. Crystal Tower really looked more than a castle than an energie facility.

Also may I ask why you guys are saing that Azys' La was sabotage on the maracydia break out? What I only remember for the node is that a dragon scape beacuse lack of mantenience 3000 years ago, if Azys La was sabotate, is was only beacuse of lack of mantenience, not beacause of 1 dragon's scape. Unless you mean all the dragons we see on that island? I thought it was something like a zoo or like that.

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No regulation of breeding, basically, with no culling of subjects, nor the security present to stop them from running wild across Azys Lla, plus the potential of the island's there falling apart over the many years and any security measures falling with them... and there you go.

My basic idea is what to all "super high tech sci-fi military" base's have in comon mostly: when shit hits the fan (like pets escaping) the whole base goes on uber lock down traping everyone inside forever till someone opens it from out side later, like when u send a strike team to clean up the mess, but with Allag having it's Revolt going on at the time I bet the "exterior gaurd force" was recalled to Crystal tower leaving the access key in Vanu hands over time (& then swallowed by Primal Bismark) & without any possible knowladge as to "why" they got the key just that it unlocks Azys Lia it was left un-used till we came later... those poor ppl trapped with murdering monsters & haywire machines for thousands of years, if any decendants actually are "alive" they probably have gone pure Feral by now (or worse become the mobs we are killing now)

just an idea, now back to the shadows of the forum

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Originally Posted by Fenral

It's supposedly a piece of Dalamud that somehow traveled farther than any single other piece of wreckage, according to Yoshi-P, but that just screams government cover up. There's an entire page in the Heavensward artbook detailing the Allagan wreckage there, and none of it is labeled. A loose bit of Binding Coil with no significance whatsoever would have just been pulled from the T11 assets, not created from scratch.

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There's evidence of other impacts in the Churning Mists (with tektite deposits) and the Forelands. Not to mention the strange glowing orange/yellow light underneath Asah. Plus the bridges in abandoned Sharlayan were damaged by the Calamity. There might even be debris to be salvaged from the Orn Wilds. Who knows what they could have planned for future Expert dungeons.

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Originally Posted by AstralKaos

No regulation of breeding, basically, with no culling of subjects, nor the security present to stop them from running wild across Azys Lla, plus the potential of the island's there falling apart over the many years and any security measures falling with them... and there you go.

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If I remember correctly, CT was used as a bridge to get power from the void ( the cloud of darkness ) basically ends with citizens finding out and over throwing their king i think.

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Originally Posted by The_NPC

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OMG this would be an amazing way to get a FFVI easter egg, one of those decendants could be Gau o.O green mage confermerd

There are also Thaumaturge/Conjurer clones in High Allagan gear in the Aethero Chemical Research Facility, specifically in the Triad Control room. So it's quite possible that -while the scientist evacuated- it was the clones that were tasked with certain things to do?

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Originally Posted by Powe

If I remember correctly, CT was used as a bridge to get power from the void ( the cloud of darkness ) basically ends with citizens finding out and over throwing their king i think.

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Thanks?

Not sure what my post has to do with CT. Maybe you've quoted the wrong person?

As far as CT goes, it was already a solar generator, Xande wanted everything to return to nothing and made a pact with the Cloud of Darkness to let her enter and subsequently reduce Eorzea to nothing; in order to make a voidgate large enough he needed more power than what CT offered and sent up Dalamud, which CT channeled power from in a miscalculated amount which caused the end of Allag as it was.

As a result of this dark pact and this nihilist crap from Xande, there was resistance against him, the Allagan people may have tried to overthrow him but they didn't and he was still very much the ruler and in control of the military (as far as we know) as there was a civil war being fought right on his doorstep... he was still very much the ruler until we entered there and finished him you could say.

To be honest, I find the CT story in relation to Allagan stuff rather out of place or... I don't know, it just seems like a forced connection, it just feels sloppy and off.

O I did reply to the wrong person, I was replying to the person you replyed too, sorry

The ones who survived had a diaspora and became other people. Any Allagans who survived CT going down, ceased being allagans in a generation or two. The "descendants" in the CT storyline are clones, they were experimenting with cloning technology and that led to Xande, but before cloning Xande they tried cloning members of his family first. Remember Azys LLa is an experimentation station and a "themepark" so its not a place Allagans lived, maybe some did, but for the most part it seems like it was composed of scientists, automatons, and tourists. This is where they used the Warring Triad for yes power, but also for experimentation (sephi = huge allagans like Xande). So I think the devs are writing a pretty cohesive allagan story, Azys Lla is a cutting edge , out on the frontier research facility, not a back up for CT.

Its more like the place they experimented with things before they made it into CT. They experimented wtith capturing the warring triad before capturing bahamut.

That being said the best places for allagan lore, CT,ST, Coil, and Azys LLa in general (dungeons that come from there, one has lore inside like museum exhibits) and now the Warring Triad primals.

Graha? I think that's his name. I'm not sure he's a "descendant" per se. I think he's more or less a descendant of a family given power by the allag somehow. I could be wrong , could be mixed race, but I don't consider him a true descendant until given more proof.

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Originally Posted by zaviermhigo

Graha? I think that's his name. I'm not sure he's a "descendant" per se. I think he's more or less a descendant of a family given power by the allag somehow. I could be wrong , could be mixed race, but I don't consider him a true descendant until given more proof.

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You're not going to get it because he's gone, and he took the entire "descendants of Allag" mythos with him. It's possible that he's mixed race, but the writers bent over backwards to explain how his ancestor received the royal blood through transfusion, so best anyone can guess is that "Desch" was a Meracydian Miqo'te who served Salina, who was last of the blood descendants of the "original" Emperor Xande. The so-called "waning blood" that had sent the empire into its downward spiral. Considering her FF3 character had one line for 90% of the game ("Oh! Oh, Desch! /comatose"), I can also guess that she passed on her blood and memories that way because, true to inbred royal form, she was extremely sickly and possibly dying, unlikely to survive in the post Calamity world.

But we can ultimately only guess.