Minfillia Speculation

Had a wild though

Hydaelyn has been growing weaker that we know and something has corrupted the Mother Crystal (2.1? 2.2? end?)

If Zodiark has corrupt the Mother Crystal as a means to an end and Minfilia and Hydaelyn are now one and the same


What if the reason for the warrior of light being more powerful is that Hydaelyn has given us the last of her power she can give to WOL and is using Minfilia as a vessel (like lady Iceheart and Shiva) to escape the aetherial realm and what we are trying to do is rescue Minfilia from Zodiark

The fact that Minfilia is clearly bound in chains that link to the Mothercrystal (evocative of fate itself, perhaps) does seem like it might coming back around to "Maybe Hydaelyn's not infallible". The quest name is already a bit of a red flag. As It Once Was. Isn't that the kind of thing the Ascians are always saying? "All will become one, as it once was, and always should have been"?

But...does anyone else feel like it might be way too late for that, story-flow-wise? Like, the waning crystal at the end of 2.00 was the first time I thought, "What is that? Is there a dualism? Should there be balance? Is Hydaelyn overstepping Her bounds?" And we had a great talk about it. Back then. In 2013. And it's been infallible Light vs. moustache-twirling deathmask blackrobes for another two years aside from the one guy who says "Balance is important, but also Zodiark's coming back and you're all going to die probably."

Are we now back to, ohohoho, maybe Hydaelyn's not all kittens and rainbows after all, guys? Why suddenly go that way now? I'd prefer at this point that Minfilia was just agreeing to entwine their fates. Minfilia's a survivor with the Echo and a friend to the Warrior of Light. Where better to... uh, hide a horcrux or whatever. Have any of these previews shown her not in the aetherial-sea-room-thing from the intro? Perhaps that's what she's chained to.

I love moral gray areas. I love complex stories. But I just feel like that ship sailed a pretty long time ago when it comes to that part of the story (barring the open door for rewritten realities, fallen worlds, etc.). Idk. I just hope it's not groan-worthy. As much as I've speculated and rooted for interesting things like this in the past, I've still gotta believe in the Crystal after everything in the interim. Don't you make a fool outta me, Hydaelyn.



DISCLAIMER: This is the category of story development that I usually predict wrong. I see the truth for a second, very early, and wrongly dismiss it because bad flow or so lame. Like every time.

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Originally Posted by Ageofwar

Minfilia and Hydaelyn are now one and the same

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This is what I'm guessing!

If Minfilia and Hydaelyn are now one and the same, you do know what that means, right?

It means she can communicate with us whenever she wants. She'll constantly be in our head watching us. She won't need a linkshell to harass us any longer.

Please no.

I agree that the set up for a fallible Hydaelyn really hasn't had the set up it needs and frankly such a reveal in a mid-cycle patch seems an odd place for flipping things around. I don't mind misdirect, betray and greys in a story as long as they are set up right and make sense. Really a switch around now feels like it would be kind of out of the blue.

Ive said earlier but I actually think if Minfilia is somehow chained to Hydaelyn, Minfilia may have willingly put on those chains for some reason. What ever Hydaelyn said shocked Minfilia. I think Hydaelyn needed something from Minfilia and she new she had to step in and put herself forward to deal with it.

I don't think Minfilia is an avatar of Hydaelyn but I could easily see her becoming a conduit or anchor for Hydaelyn in her interactions with the world. Hydaelyn has been growing progressively weaker and sacrificed a lot to give us time to mature into the threat to the Ascians we have become. It could be that she is reaching a stage that without a mortal connection her ability to interact with the physical world is failing. Do remember that when Hydaelyn spoke with Minfilia it was the first time either the WoL or Minfilia had heard anything from her since the Ultima weapon.

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Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer

Please no.

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I mentioned on Twitter yesterday that, if this is the case, then we have a 95% chance of this theoretical Minfilia/Hydaelyn (let's call her MAXfilia for the sake of argument) referring to you exclusively as "my child".

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Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer

If Minfilia and Hydaelyn are now one and the same, you do know what that means, right?

It means she can communicate with us whenever she wants. She'll constantly be in our head watching us. She won't need a linkshell to harass us any longer.

Please no.

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not necessary, particularly if Hydaelyn had give us even more power than we had (last act of desperation?)

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Originally Posted by Mjollnir

This is what I'm guessing!

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I can't get over the angelic look of Minfillia new look

we know that Y'shtola was in the life stream and that Thancred was there for a briefer time than Y'shtola, maybe even access to the Mother Crystal

In the 2.55 cut scene, Minfillia says "No" to Hydaelyn

I believe the chat went something like this:-
Hydaelyn "Leave the warrior of light and return to Y'shtola"
Minfillia "NO!"
Hydaelyn "Your path is now different from the Warrior of light and I require your assistance, go back"

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Originally Posted by Ageofwar

I believe the chat went something like this:-
Hydaelyn "Leave the warrior of light and return to Y'shtola"
Minfillia "NO!"
Hydaelyn "Your path is now different from the Warrior of light and I require your assistance, go back"

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I believe the chat went something like this:-
Hydaelyn "It is the prophecied time, you must leave your companions and give up your life and soul to become my mortal vessel"
Minfilia "NO!"
Hydaelyn "Ascilia... I am.. your.. MOTHER"

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Originally Posted by Mjollnir

I believe the chat went something like this:-
Hydaelyn "It is the prophecied time, you must leave your companions and give up your life and soul to become my mortal vessel"
Minfilia "NO!"
Hydaelyn "Ascilia... I am.. your.. MOTHER"

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Wow. Warburton was kinky.

I imagined it as something more like:
Hydaelyn "My strength wanes. My connection to the world grows weak."
Minfilia "NO!"
Minfilia thinks "Perhaps I can an use the Antitower to anchor Hydaelyn's connection"

Do remember Minfilia was connected to the Students of Beldasion who studied the echo. It wouldn't be suprising considering echo users links to the Mothercrystal for the Students of B to be connected to the study of the Mothercrystal that went on in the Antitower.

Let's be honest, this way Minfilia would be playing a proactive and important role. Extra points if it is portrayed as a burden in some way. With the inclusion of Krile I've been starting to wonder if we will see echo user allies start to play a more prominent role. I wouldn't be surprised in the least to see another potential ally echo user introduced at some point in the next few patches.

I still want to know what particular traits the WoL's echo has. Really the character's own echo and use of it is one of the least developed parts of the WoL's story. What specifically is it that made Hydaelyn single out the WoL? I have to think the WoL's particular echo is part of it if every echo user's echo is a little different.

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Originally Posted by Belhi

Minfilia thinks "Perhaps I can an use the Antitower to anchor Hydaelyn's connection"

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one small point.

why after talking with Hydaelyn does she run back along the tunnel to were Y'shtola has collapsed the tunnel and has used a forbidden teleportation spell