Idea to simplify combo action skills

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Originally Posted by Garvey

Not sure if this idea has been suggested already, but I'll just go with it anyway.

Instead of requiring 5 different buttons/hotkeys for each ability in a combo sequence, just have 1 button, and have it change its icon to the next ability in the sequence when you use it...

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It is a nice idea, I actually have something similar to this set up for some of my jobs. The biggest thing from setting this up from what I noticed is you need a "reset" button. Why? If you're in the middle of a combo and you have to stop, then you want to revert back to the start of your combo when time runs out.

Right now I'm doing what you suggested through Macros. Luckily the jobs I have now I don't need to switch around a lot. For example I have a base controller set up with Fast Blade. Fast Blade (X)is set up as a macro to reset back to this "base" set up. If I hit Savage Blade, I replace things like Riot Blade with Royal Authority and RoH are there waiting for me on Square and Triangle.

Like someone posted, which I found to be a great idea, is having my cool downs on a bar below my crossbars so I know when to use LR/RL buttons to get to the 8th set.

Though I agree something like this would be wonderful that doesn't involve all the macros..just..don't know how they'd get to where it works.

Of course if you're on PC someone made an awesome Windows voice activation for their Ninja, I took that and put it to my tank when I'm on PC. Stopped doing it because I do servers and tech support..so by the time I get home I don't want to sit in front of the PC for so long.

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Originally Posted by Leigaon

If you're in the middle of a combo and you have to stop, then you want to revert back to the start of your combo when time runs out.

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Once your combo effect wears off, you'd automatically go back to the first step.

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Originally Posted by Houston009

You are most likey experiencing this quirk because you have the setting for which when you Draw your weapon it allows access to certain bars. Even though you set your bars to only switch between 2 sets, having unsheath/sheathed checked will send you back to your first set when you engage.

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this would be what is happening - but the other option is having to mump through all 8 sets, which is even worse (you can't go back/forward, it's one-way). It's the reason I changed it to behave differently with the weapon out. If I choose HB2, that where it should stay, not just change to HB1 after choosing one thing. Even more ridiculous, it just does it the first time, subsequently is stays where it is.

I think though, on balance, they should have just given the new skills scaling to old content, and relegated some of the older skills to history. There's really no sensible reason to be weighed down with 30-odd "skills/buttons" - particularly when they can/could be be combo-ed if the macro system wasn't so bad. If they do the same thing next time, we'll be tossing controllers in the bin (or more likely, those who prefer controllers will be tossing the game in the bin instead).

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Originally Posted by XiXiQ

yes, I'm using it. swapping is just inefficient, even though I just have the 2 to page as I turned off the rest. There's also the very annoying "quirk" where when you first pick something from the 2nd bar, it will swap back to the first. You also can't see the state of cooldowns on the other bar. If there's a better way, I'd love to know what it is.

This wouldn't be so bad if you could just stick to what's required for lvl60, but the bulk of dailies is still lvl50 roulettes, and there's only 4 dungeons where full lvl60 is used.

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I put all my CD in a line hot bar, just above my cross bar, but set to the smallest size, so I can see when they are ready.

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Originally Posted by Whiteroom

I put all my CD in a line hot bar, just above my cross bar, but set to the smallest size, so I can see when they are ready.

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I've seen a few mention that, will have a look and see if I can figure out how it works.

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Originally Posted by XiXiQ

I've seen a few mention that, will have a look and see if I can figure out how it works.

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It was a minor pain to set up, but now I couldn't do without it. I even keep some of my main hotbar CD in it, since all my healer dps actions are on my quick bar. I can just stay in qucik bar while dpsing and know still when tetra, assiez, and shroud are ready.

I managed to figure out how to put a hotbar onto the hud to see it, but can't for the life of me figure out how to add anything to it lol

Take your icon and drag it to your bar with the mouse/touchpad.

ok thanks, will give that a go :)

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Originally Posted by Reynhart

Once your combo effect wears off, you'd automatically go back to the first step.

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Yup! That's why I mentioned a reset of some sort, but doing this the way it is set up now you need an actual reset macro back to your base. If they made a set up like this they'll have to create it to go back after the timer goes off, and not be interrupted by other macros or timer actions.

When I first was doing SMN I had chotbar copy set up so when I go into bahamut hyper mode, it switches Ruin III and Fus Ro Dah to my main controller set up..but had it on a timer so it did it automatically. Thing was if I used other macros it would interrupt it. So I ended up with a quick reset with my finisher, so once he spits a loogie on the mob it removes those not needed moves.

So they would also have to make it so during this timer that would be shared with the actual combo action it wouldn't screw up anything else. I'm sure it can be done by the FFXIV team though. No problem!

If anything make a skill link options to enable for those who can't or don't want to go to the extent of creating all those action / chotbar / hotbar copies.

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Originally Posted by XiXiQ

I managed to figure out how to put a hotbar onto the hud to see it, but can't for the life of me figure out how to add anything to it lol

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using a USB mouse of some sort or you can use the PS4 controller touch pad "mouse mode" and click / drag. Though it can be a pain. Maybe there is an easier way but a quick USB mouse solves the issue in 30 seconds.