My easy controller setup for WAR

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Originally Posted by whiskeybravo

But it doesn't always execute in order. The few macros I use (foresight/awareness on tanks, bloodbath/second wind/foresight/keen flurry on drg) have that problem occasionally.

Vengeance in particular is an interesting CD. I pop it most often with Bloodbath because of the return heals (great tanking mobs), but it's an incredibly strong cd when paired with IB for big tank busters. If you aren't raiding then you don't have to worry too much about that at this point, but part of all this is finding the synergy between CDs. Foresight/Vengeance don't really have any synergy.

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I still pop it with bloodbath, internal release is rarely on the same cooldown as it, so i don't have issues with it. I don't have IB on a macro at all since it has such a tighter timing schedule on it. Ive also never had them pop out of order. I know i have done macros with waits so that I can easily access the second part of the macro without activating the first, but with WAR that doesnt really seem necessary. Especially since alot of the time your trying to pair a percentage down incoming type CD with some other variety of CD to get the most eHP out of your CD's.

Again I realize this isn't the most optimal, but its still better than leafing through pages.

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Originally Posted by Freyyy

I wanted to answer to this too, in this game you can easily get into raiding while only playing 3-4 days a week and having a real life with kids, wife, job etc... There is a lot of statics that are only raiding 3-4 days a weak in the evening and only 2-3 hours per day. Just gotta find the right people. I personally got lucky to have a GF who's into gaming and while she's not playing FFXIV, she enjoys watching me playing and raiding and she even sometimes plays a bit with my char (not in raids tho). But if your wife isn't like that, you should find a static with schedules that will fit your real life ^^

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Yeah I run in a small group of about 5-6 of us that do raids. I played alot when 2.0 first came out and raided T5 pretty early, but life has changed now. We are gearing up for savage now and hope to be in there soon. Yeah but it's a scheduling conflict for alot of static groups that want someone there for a good 6 hour stretch. I'm pretty excited to get on there.

I am personally not a fan of macroing cool downs together and depending on how it's done, it could seriously hinder your flexibility in savage raid content.

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Defiance:
/micon Defiance
/ac Defiance <me>
/chotbar change 1
/chotbar set "Inner Beast" 1 RD1
/chotbar set "Steel Cyclone" 1 RD3

Deliverance:
/micon Deliverance
/ac Defiance <me>
/chotbar change 1
/chotbar set "Fell Cleave" 1 RD1
/chotbar set "Decimate" 1 RD3

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These 2 macros are good. The rest are doubtful or downright bad. They prevent you from playing Warrior to its full potential. Difference is that this has only 1 ability being used (/ac) while others have multiple.

Raw Intuition + Awareness sounds good initially, but then how do you get 3rd Fell Cleave under Berserk? .. I'm using Skill Speed and mashing buttons very carefully to just barely get that last Fell Cleave before Pacification. Even the slightest delay from Awareness going off could miss that big dmg hit.

Foresight and Vengeance together ... OK, but many times I'd rather have 1 up and the other starting after it fades. Example: a1 tanking oppressor in Deliverance and using the cooldowns to just make up a bit for the lack of Defiance. Using together would run you out of cooldowns real fast.

Condensing like this is giving up on being all that you can be.

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Originally Posted by RhazeCain

These 2 macros are good. The rest are doubtful or downright bad. They prevent you from playing Warrior to its full potential.

Raw Intuition + Awareness sounds good initially, but then how do you get 3rd Fell Cleave under Berserk? .. I'm using Skill Speed and mashing buttons very carefully to just barely get that last Fell Cleave before Pacification. Even the slightest delay from Awareness going off could miss that big dmg hit.

Foresight and Vengeance together ... OK, but many times I'd rather have 1 up and the other starting after it fades. Example: a1 tanking oppressor in Deliverance and using the cooldowns to just make up a bit for the lack of Defiance. Using together would run you out of cooldowns real fast.

Condensing like this is giving up on being all that you can be.

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No.

You misunderstand how macros work. If you don't put a wait on a macro then the server wont execute the line if another ability is on its animation lock. So for example when im getting my 3rd fell cleave and I hit my raw intuition macro the server will only execute raw intuition because the second line wont be able to execute because of the ping lockdown from the server, this frees me up to us the last fell cleave on command.

There is a TON of misunderstanding on how macro lines work. Yes macro's are absolutely awful if they use a wait command, but if they arent then you execute them as if they are two buttons.

The only thing I seem to be suffering on is the direct lag on a macro execution ( which is minimal). Other than that I tend to use internal release and bloodbath on seperate GCD's. Vengeance and foresight on different GCD's to maximize Cooldown uptimes, equiplibrium and second wind are all used on different GCD's. I also am easily able to use 2 cooldowns between GCD's before GCD uptime. I guess i'm having trouble seeing how this is so bad that its game breaking. I'd be willing to bet if I was to play with you, you would be completely incapable of seeing the difference.

That being said I have been working on ways to make a multihotbar setup more feasible. If i get one together i'll post it to improve the lives of us miserable PS4 controller users :p

Yea, between /chotbar set for Defiance and Deliverance and moving away from expanded L2/R2 being the same (I used to use this too to avoid confusing which one was pressed first) I've got room for everything but Mercy Stroke. Since the new DRG abilities basically forced me to get used to expanded being different on both sides it didn't take long to get accustomed to it on War. Only macro I use on War is Foresight/Awareness. I could make one for Mercy but just haven't. I also still copy IR and Conv on the expanded, so I could technically get rid of those and make room for mercy, but I haven't done that either lol

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Originally Posted by Sapphidia

karateorangutang is basically right - without a wait command, the macro is simply "try to do one of these in order". It'll execute the first, then if that's already on CD it'll do the next in line.

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It doesn't always execute in order, though. Regardless if it hasn't happened to you yet, it will eventually, guaranteed.

karateorangutang is basically right - without a wait command, the macro is simply "try to do one of these in order". It'll execute the first, then if that's already on CD it'll do the next in line. Depending on latency you can end up losing a tiny bit of dps due to global cooldowns working a bit slower (due to macros not queuing) but it's negligible.

Thus... it's fine for cooldowns that are always either popped in sequence (like Raw Intuition and Awareness), or are a priority system where it doesnt really matter which one you use (I guess you can say Thrill, Conva and Second Wind fall into this in a sense - push a button for a health injection).

Where these macros -suck- is when you have the second or third action in order being a cooldown that you might actually want to pop on its own without the ones infront of it. Key example being Vengeance into Foresight. Yes, in a lot of cases you can use this button for vengeance, and when you want damage mitigation and vengeance is on CD it'll be a foresight. BUT it prevents you using Foresight as a minor damage reduction cooldown spammed frequently in situations where you want to save the Vengeance for a tankbuster.

These macros CAN reduce the number of buttons you have to keybind with minimal efficiency loss but you have to make sure you don't tie up actions in the second half of a macro that you might want to pop more frequently than the stuff that comes before it. THAT'S where the major efficiency loss comes.

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Originally Posted by whiskeybravo

It doesn't always execute in order, though. Regardless if it hasn't happened to you yet, it will eventually, guaranteed.

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Wouldn't this get filed under negligible though? I've popped cooldowns hundreds of times this way and never had it happen, if you wait til halfway through the animation lock of a move the you're in the clear. If you popping it early, then that is human error and not the game's error.

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Originally Posted by Sapphidia

Where these macros -suck- is when you have the second or third action in order being a cooldown that you might actually want to pop on its own without the ones infront of it. Key example being Vengeance into Foresight. Yes, in a lot of cases you can use this button for vengeance, and when you want damage mitigation and vengeance is on CD it'll be a foresight. BUT it prevents you using Foresight as a minor damage reduction cooldown spammed frequently in situations where you want to save the Vengeance for a tankbuster.

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This is the one a wrestle with the most and is one of the ones I intend to get off a macro as soon as I can figure it out. I have some idea's but nothing has been really efficient yet.

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Originally Posted by karateorangutang

Wouldn't this get filed under negligible though?

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It's negligible til you die from it going off in the wrong order, which has happened to me on drg when I needed second wind but something else popped instead. Most of the time it works as intended, but not always. If it truly hasn't happened to you then commends, but it is a real thing and one of a few reasons why macros are generally disdained. I used to use them alot, particularly on war because there are a lot of abilities. I don't now and not once have I missed them. Even as simple as a provoke macro that spouts "hey I just provoked", which I used to use until it started wiping us back in t11 days. That's when I officially stopped using and recommending them xD Even the Defiance/Deliverance macros mess up occasionally and will turn the stance on but not swap abilities, or swap abilities without changing stances. It's annoying for sure but better than messing with 3 hotbars.. Button mashing FTW

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Originally Posted by karateorangutang

if you wait til halfway through the animation lock of a move the you're in the clear.

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#aintgottimeforthat

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Originally Posted by whiskeybravo

#aintgottimeforthat

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but you have time to die and get rezzed?