YoshiP stated that MMOs are trending toward F2P

This game is trending towards F2P now: less dungeons and more stuff in the cash shop.

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Originally Posted by Makeda

Is there a potential plan for FFXIV to go F2P?

I suspect they are considering it. I have no idea how strong subs are for this game, but they have to be noticing that WoW lost more than half its subs this past year, after only gaining 30% from the last expac, and is now about to put another expac on the quick in a desperate move to regain ground.

There are basically two subscription MMOs left in the western market. WoW and FFXIV. Wildstar, the third, will be F2P by this winter if not fall - and being a sub based game has almost killed that game despite it having an amazingly good game engine.

The problem with sub games is the bar is set higher for getting people's attention - and the expectation is unreasonable. With a sub game people expect WoW... and even WoW can no longer compete with itself as it is remembered... it has passed its prime and people are feeling that. You cannot compete with nostalgia.

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this part is a joke.... a serious one:

- WoW loose subscriber (mainly for FF14) because the dev did get lazy and offer almost no content, did you see what was the First big patch of them last expansion? twitter add and selfie option, seriously?
when you take player for idiot you pay it at one time, before warlord of draenor they had get a patch of content the 13 september 2013 and nothing until the release of warlord of draenor the 13th november 2014! and do you think they have done better since then? 2 patch since the release of this one....

FF14 offer content patch every 3 month with a major add. some can say it's not perfect, but from memory, no mmorpg F2P or P2P can offer this sort of add of content. (don't make me start on wildstart)

- the attention bar of the player of mmorpg F2P or P2P or B2P is always setup quite high, the trouble is the mmorpg genre haven't evolved since WoW... even before this period and that why people get bored, but that not tie to the genre, people tend to get bored quite fast now. since tons of mmorpg of different quality come out it's hard to keep people focus on one game.

about the F2P model it's a huge scam, people defending it need to wake up. you pay 10-15 buck per month for play FF14 some F2P for be competitive cost far far more than this per month. why more company get into the F2P model, it's because it allows them to get tons of cash fast, but very often this sort of game game barren, because people will simply act like locust and get to another game.


by the way Free to play is wrong in too many sense, yeah a very casual player can probably play for free, but a midcore or a hardcore player will often need to pay for be able to really enjoy the game! then this terms by itself is a huge lie!

If it goes f2p I'm gone. My personal end game is cosmetics and glamour. If you lock that behind a paywall I'm leaving.

Some play for the armor, dungeons, loot etc... but some of us casual players like collecting cute clothes and decorating houses and I enjoy the fact that unlike f2p games I can obtain tons of outfits without having to pay for each one. The fact that I can earn and unlock my fashion through gameplay is a huge appeal to me.

I've played several 'F2P' games and finally realized that I always ended up paying more for those in a month than I did for a monthly sub. For a few, astronomically more.

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Originally Posted by myahele

This game is trending towards F2P now: less dungeons and more stuff in the cash shop.

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Vanity is F2P? MY MIND IS BLOWN!

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

I don't think GW2 is free to play done right, personally I dont think it's anything done right. As for FFXIV having something GW2 doesn't, you missed a big one - game play. Honestly I don't see GW2 as being in the same league as FFXIV.



Content locusts would starve in the F2P world, they would not slow down, they would exhaust the free aspect of the content and move on to the next free game as soon as they were unwilling to pay for more. F2P works on the basis of whales. The majority of players are not whales and soon tire of the free element before moving on.

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That depends as I said with The Secret World there is so much content and is a much harder game for end gamers then this game. Sadly I stopped playing TSW because of I was so involved in this game that the new content was way to hard for me to do. But maybe TSW is an exception, though unlike many f2p and more like Aion there is 0 content restriction for f2p players.

You needed Yoshi P to tell you that there are more F2P MMO's than there are P2P ones?

Okay.

The day this game goes free to play is the day I quit... well I could quit before that for other reasons, but I think you get my point.

The free to play model is absolute trash, not only do they lock things behind a paywall but they also have a sub model that you have to pay for (along with cash shop if you want cool cosmetics...). SWTOR for example, either you sub or pay for the tickets to un-restrict your access to content. ArcheAge too, where the selling point of the game is locked behind a sub fee, along with countless cosmetics, XP bonus items, P2W crap, etc.

I never understood the people who say they prefer F2P games and then end up spending more than they ever would on a P2P game on cosmetics or restricted content.

It really shouldn't be surprising they are considering it. They copied the same core gameplay from those very games that all found P2P unsustainable.

ffxiv won't go free to play the op is twist yoshi p words. yoshi p has no plan make this game go free to play

yoshi p has been firm defend of sub and since ffxiv has 6 million there won't any ftp

the last interview with gamescorn there wasn't even comment about ftp