Wow wheres my MP.....?

Funny reading this thread, I started playing 2 weeks ago, reached level 16 before this patch, had decent Int. stat stacked so I could hit things pretty hard for my level, few points in Mind some in Piety, a couple in Vitality.. Patch today and now I am told what stats I should have... I seriously went from enjoying this game to thinking its pathetic in less than 15 minutes. It seems now that we are being told what classes are to do what so if your a con. then you will be a healer ... I was able to go out and have a decent chance to level alone, but now its pointless, Seems as though I wasted my $30 buying this game ... Play to have fun .. but now .. at least here .. told what you can do to have fun

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Originally Posted by 1ceCold

Funny reading this thread, I started playing 2 weeks ago, reached level 16 before this patch, had decent Int. stat stacked so I could hit things pretty hard for my level, few points in Mind some in Piety, a couple in Vitality.. Patch today and now I am told what stats I should have... I seriously went from enjoying this game to thinking its pathetic in less than 15 minutes. It seems now that we are being told what classes are to do what so if your a con. then you will be a healer ... I was able to go out and have a decent chance to level alone, but now its pointless, Seems as though I wasted my $30 buying this game ... Play to have fun .. but now .. at least here .. told what you can do to have fun

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don't be discouraged by me i know they will bring point allotment back in 1.20 its just i think they way they have auto balanced the stats for mages is a little weird out of the gate

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Originally Posted by 1ceCold

Funny reading this thread, I started playing 2 weeks ago, reached level 16 before this patch, had decent Int. stat stacked so I could hit things pretty hard for my level, few points in Mind some in Piety, a couple in Vitality.. Patch today and now I am told what stats I should have... I seriously went from enjoying this game to thinking its pathetic in less than 15 minutes. It seems now that we are being told what classes are to do what so if your a con. then you will be a healer ... I was able to go out and have a decent chance to level alone, but now its pointless, Seems as though I wasted my $30 buying this game ... Play to have fun .. but now .. at least here .. told what you can do to have fun

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I entirely disagree with this for the simple fact that as a 44 PUG (haven't played with my 50GLA yet, been scared of my shield and changing all my skills) I have 320 Magic potency with 184 INT, 148 MND, and 151 PIE which is almost as high as my melee stats which are 185 STR 153 VIT and 189 DEX.

Say I wanted to use magic on my PUG, judging by just bare stats with dated melee gear, I should have no problem being a mage fighter if I want to. Ultimately this stat reallocation gives us more freedom because overall all of my stats are higher and now I don't have to worry about "If I slot some INT for my spells, I'll be sacrificing STR and DEX which will overall make me weaker". I don't have that issue now and can use the most out of both my melee weapons AND magic.

Yeah the update notes confused me a bit...

So, does PIE exclusively boost MP now, or is it both PIE AND MND ? I read it as the latter, though based on what people are saying here it's hard to say now...

Don't forget though, that there are more balance tweaks in the works for future patches as well as being able to allocate stats like we used to once again. They're suspending that ability for now to see how the tweaked primary stats play out now, and it makes sense - If you make stats like STR and INT have a much more profound impact, you don't want to let people just freely boost those stats right out the gate.

IIRC, they're going to make it (probably in 1.21 when the job system is finally in place) so that you can allocate stat points individually for each class, as we no longer have a general physical level. This is absolutely fantastic, as now we're free to tailor each class to whatever playstyles you prefer.

For example, let's say your main is Gladiator, and you want to play Paladin primarily in groups. Instead of being forced into a specific style like XI did, you can make yourself an offensive Paladin with high STR & DEX in order to help generate enmity & kill faster - or maybe you want lots of VIT & MND for high HP, MP and curing power?

Or maybe lots of STR & MND (or is it strictly PIE now that boosts MP?) so that you can run around smacking mobs AND have good curing power so that you can effectively smack the mob around and heal others at the same time rather than play defensively?

All this without impacting your stats on other jobs like the old system did. You no longer have to worry about over-committing to some stats and thus screwing over your performance in others.

They really do need to tweak back the cost of cure spells though. It was bad enough when they tripled the costs in the last update, but now we have more HP & less MP? That's not exactly fair.

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Originally Posted by Razor

I entirely disagree with this for the simple fact that as a 44 PUG (haven't played with my 50GLA yet, been scared of my shield and changing all my skills) I have 320 Magic potency with 184 INT, 148 MND, and 151 PIE which is almost as high as my melee stats which are 185 STR 153 VIT and 189 DEX.

Say I wanted to use magic on my PUG, judging by just bare stats with dated melee gear, I should have no problem being a mage fighter if I want to. Ultimately this stat reallocation gives us more freedom because overall all of my stats are higher and now I don't have to worry about "If I slot some INT for my spells, I'll be sacrificing STR and DEX which will overall make me weaker". I don't have that issue now and can use the most out of both my melee weapons AND magic.

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Where you say More freedom, I say less specialization and therefore less freedom.

Where's my phantom dart damage is a better question

Where is something in this patch that's not hurting mages... besides casting in passive mode that's kinda cool