v3.1 "Relic" Weapon

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

Nexus and Zeta would like to disagree with you. They were at least on par with coil weapons when they were out.

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They were not released at the same time of what the current high tier raid was.. So no.. In other words.. When they finally decide to drop the relic quests.. The current Alexander savage weapons will be obsolete and whatever the new item level for the next raid will still be higher than the relic weapon.

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Originally Posted by Delnoir

Having a finished Zeta will provide the owner with some kind of head start, yes.

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This isn't true. It was people interpreting intentionally vague wording to fit their own ideals. Zeta owners will be given consideration.
We can buy glamours of all our previous relic steps. That's already some consideration right there. Keep your hopes low and don't expect anymore further.

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Originally Posted by Natashio

You know the rules. Relic weapon can never be stronger than whatever is the current high tier raid is. Get with the program yo!

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It wont be less than i210 because of eso weapons that only takes 3 weeks of tomes. The relic will be the best in pacth 3.1, the raid weapon in 3.2, the relic will catchup in 3.3.

If they followed something similar to the first phase when 2.0 was released it would come out via a few quests eg. find item in beastman stronghold, Complete alexander normal 1-4, kill chimera/hydra mk2 spend a bunch of poetics and it will be item level 200 and upgrade to 210 via spending esoterics. I did notice somewhere in Idyllshire there is a furnace looking object with some gobbies possibly trying to mine rocks away to get to it. Possibly the old drunk kettle maker might make an appearance, since his best friend Rowena has already set up shop there.

I couldn't imagine it being 215 until savage t4 is beaten by atleast a good portion of raiders. Since it is designed to follow BEHIND raid gear but match it before the end of the patch cycle. In relation to Zeta owners, Consideration is the only thing we are getting at the moment anything else is wishful thinking.

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Originally Posted by kiraan

It wont be less than i210 because of eso weapons that only takes 3 weeks of tomes. The relic will be the best in pacth 3.1, the raid weapon in 3.2, the relic will catchup in 3.3.

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I hope this is the true route it takes.

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Originally Posted by Natashio

You know the rules. Relic weapon can never be stronger than whatever is the current high tier raid is. Get with the program yo!

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

Nexus and Zeta would like to disagree with you. They were at least on par with coil weapons when they were out.

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^ that. The Nexus was equal to High Allagan weapon for about a month. Zodiac Zeta's had a potential of like 11 (?) more secondary points than any respective dreadwyrm weapon as long as they weren't specced into 3 secondaries, so they could actually be better then the current high tier raid at the time. But moreover, the rules you state weren't here at the beginning of the game. It was changed literally because only the most hardcore raiders even cared about BCoB. Relic +1 was exact same item level. I just wonder what caused them to go away from this. When I saw the savage weapon wasn't i215, the only thing I could think of to even rationalize it was that the relic in 3.1 was going to be the direction SE takes for the strongest weapon. The relic weapons were the strongest in FFXI right? This wouldn't be new territory...

No stop you're giving them ideas!

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

Nexus and Zeta would like to disagree with you. They were at least on par with coil weapons when they were out.

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Zeta was BiS and it lasted me for a very long time during HW too! I expect this relic will be no different over time.

given how grindy Yoshi tries to make the game these days, I'm sure something you need will be locked behind red scripts.

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Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang

You have no choice. First relic demanded a 1star weapon. This is probably be the case again, probably.

Since SE is making so many efforts to make content more casual friendly, it will be a 2 star weapon, that requieres at least 5 red scrips materials, making it accesible for the larger part of the population for arround 40 to 50 mill gil. Enjoy the "casual alternative".

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Absolutely not relics should not rely heavily on crafts the whole Zodiac phase was stupid requiring a high quality item from each craft even cul no they should have nothing to do with relics.

Not to mention rude during zodic step but I am only saying that about one person who told me to just buy his item on the MB when I was trying to find some one to craft the mats I had.