Why are people already moaning about alex savage...

Those poeple have Alex normal to do. So do Alex normal and stop moaning...

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Originally Posted by Miscreant

Damn..... Just because you set up the group doesn't mean you have to lead it, it's a training group, you're there to play around and learn it. It just means you have to put the group into the duty, or you can wait until it's a full group then swiftly promote someone else to leader, you know... if using duty finder is to hard.

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Completely agree. I don't see why people are scared to join/make a learning group, or even let others know they are new to a specific fight.
Everyone needs to learn the fights at some point!

Or you know.. you can wait for echo and completely outgear a fight, without any challenge whatsoever :P

No I'm not seeking or even looking for a carry. Being carried is what people do when they buy runs which to me there I no point in doing. If I need a carry I shouldn't be playing in the first place. I just need people to give me a chance to try bismark and they lime is what I'm saying. For the people that say go do Alex normal I've spread beatean it. To me it was way to easy. Also sorry forgot to add been there done that got the tee shirt tried numerous times with party finder can't even get people to join me through that either.

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Originally Posted by Kogasan

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Seriously, lets call this topic finished now.... go make some learning parties, meet some players who are in a similar situation to you, make a linkshell with those players, become good friends, form a static with them, beat Alex Savage and walk around Idyllshire looking sawg in your BiS gear.

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Originally Posted by gtfoinstance

... considering 90% of you are still wiping on bismarck ex?

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good 1 post u got there :D

I like how quickly this topic turned from the OP's original message to a mixture of that and jumping on one person because of their complaint....

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Originally Posted by Souyo

As with any MMO, people will bitch and moan at anything that isn't given to them their way.

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Tis the cycle.

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Originally Posted by Aqua_Amaiyo

I like how quickly this topic turned from the OP's original message to a mixture of that and jumping on one person because of their complaint....

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tbf it's a really weird complaint

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Originally Posted by Malevicton

tbf it's a really weird complaint

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It's actually a great example of the point proving itself, really.

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Originally Posted by Rioszz

Completely agree. I don't see why people are scared to join/make a learning group, or even let others know they are new to a specific fight.
Everyone needs to learn the fights at some point!

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Sadly a lot of MMO players have this strange delusion that just because they've done something before everyone should have too. Its especially true for the kids who thump their echest and claim themselves to be "hardcore". I just hit 60 on my first class the other day and already have people whine that I can't heal 2 room pulls in Expert roulette due to "still being in scrub gear".

Welcome to today's gamers.