I am a bad tank coz i use vit(tank) gear!

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Originally Posted by Dhex

Nothing kills you at 14000HP - you can have 17000HP; but what's the point of having useless extra HP?

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To give healers breathing room and account for mistakes they may make in healing. Its much harder for a wipe to happen due to a tank death when they have 3000 more hp.

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

They made their own thread cause

http://i.imgur.com/OodIp9Y.png

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I've seen that snowflake before >_>

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Originally Posted by Zumi

To give healers breathing room and account for mistakes they may make in healing. Its much harder for a wipe to happen due to a tank death when they have 3000 more hp.

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Healers should just stack piety gear to give tanks more breathing room and account for mistakes they may make in tanking. It's much harder for a wipe to happen due to a healer running out of MP when they have 3000 extra.

Seriously, you can go around in circles about this all you want, but at the end of the day it all comes down to differing playstyles. Some STR tanks are terrible. Some actually know what they're doing. You know what? The same thing applies to VIT tanks, along with every other class, job, and build you can think of.

TL;DR - There's dumb people everywhere.

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Originally Posted by PotatoWafflez

I've seen that snowflake before >_>

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It's one of my stock responses to duplicate threads. xD

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

Seriously, you can go around in circles about this all you want, but at the end of the day it all comes down to differing playstyles. Some STR tanks are terrible. Some actually know what they're doing. You know what? The same thing applies to VIT tanks, along with every other class, job, and build you can think of.

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Piety DRK!

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

TL;DR - There's dumb people everywhere.

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Ya caught me. :3

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Originally Posted by Zumi

To give healers breathing room and account for mistakes they may make in healing. Its much harder for a wipe to happen due to a tank death when they have 3000 more hp.

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I wish I have breathing room and be allowed for mistakes with ogcds. Like maybe 3 second leeway of being hit. Like I would get hit for 10k HP and then i would hit my IB/rampart/skin 3 seconds later and the game suddenly thinks I was hit for 8k and refund me back 1k hp, even if i had 7k/1xk hp at the time I was hit. Totally reasonable, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz6OGVCdov8

I always go vit just because I don't know my healer 9/10 times.

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Originally Posted by Dhex

Nothing kills you at 14000HP - you can have 17000HP; but what's the point of having useless extra HP?

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Fractal Continuum would like a word. The iron giant near just before the final boss can easily deal more than 14000 damage in seconds. And that's without a critical. I've seen more than a few tanks reduced to puddles of goop because they were too proud to believe anything could hurt them.

Luckily, he only uses it once and usually when he's nearing death. Still, I've lost quite a few tanks to that move so it's folly to believe there's some magical threshold after which you can't be one-shot. Heck, even the bees in Neverreap can obliterate a tanks HP if they get Final Sting off successfully.

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

Fractal Continuum would like a word. The iron giant near just before the final boss can easily deal more than 14000 damage in seconds. And that's without a critical. I've seen more than a few tanks reduced to puddles of goop because they were too proud to believe anything could hurt them.

Luckily, he only uses it once and usually when he's nearing death. Still, I've lost quite a few tanks to that move so it's folly to believe there's some magical threshold after which you can't be one-shot. Heck, even the bees in Neverreap can obliterate a tanks HP if they get Final Sting off successfully.

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oddly enough...guess what helps solve that problem? That's right! Doing more damage as a tank while still being able to maintain your damage mitigation...go figure...hard for mobs to kill you with their BS mechanics if they're dead before they can use them.

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

Fractal Continuum would like a word. The iron giant near just before the final boss can easily deal more than 14000 damage in seconds.

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Did you not stun the buff he casts on himself? lol