A Simple Solution to the Change to Bard

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Originally Posted by Dragoon4life

Yes but they do have damage boosters that when turned on stay on. WM is a damage booster. That's the comparison. Now if they (MNK NIN) suddenly got a cast bar for using the damage boosters everyone would hate it. WM should be used like the DRG skill where as it boosts a few previous skills and only new skills can be used while WM is on. Or just uses MP and Boosting DEX.

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I agree with this here.. This is the answer WM should tick your mana, and NOT stop autoattack... You a bard? U need to choose

a. Restore Mana
b. Buff Casters
c. Restore TP
d. Give myself more DPS BISH

This would be the best solution imho.
Here is the issue...

BLM / SMN / SCH / WHM / AST + FOE > BRD + WM so essentially the bard wouldnt use the new abilities unless there were no casters in the party.

Yeah...was somewhat disappointed we didn't get something along the lines of Valor Minuet (maybe not as strong as T4...but you get the idea). Seems like that would have been time better spent by the developers considering the penalty we take for singing. Would have been a soft nerf of sorts for BRD while keeping them in demand---and they likely wouldn't be stuck with the aftermath of trying to rebalance things.

Honestly it should just be a stance. You toggle it on and off giving yourself the increased damage and cast times, but it shouldn't lock out all the new abilities. What it should do is maybe add an additional proc or two to the new abilities.

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Originally Posted by Emerald_Wyvern

Honestly it should just be a stance. You toggle it on and off giving yourself the increased damage and cast times, but it shouldn't lock out all the new abilities. What it should do is maybe add an additional proc or two to the new abilities.

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I'd be fine just being to use the new abilities outside the stance.

DRG is my wife and Bard is my mistress. I Main a DRG and Bard both have Pros and Cons at certain content. DRG for me was better when doing those Alex Maps and DPS check. Bard got me thru most of my EX Primals and help me master them so I could do them with my DRG. I was always a Baiter in Ramuh Ex. Even now DRG is a lil better for Bismark EX while Bard is a lil easier in Ravanna EX.

Yoshi P. is fine with bard and so am I. Don't like the class? then find a new one or game. I understand you want to play a class a certain way, but this is not the game to do it. Try mechanic.

Dont use the whole brd dilemna to blantantly push your non brd related agenda, your signature clearly says what you really want, dont act like you care about brds lol

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Originally Posted by Saerie

I uh.. I dunno if adding a new job branch can be called "Simple Solution" lol.

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Back when they announced SCH and SMN branching from ACN, I was sort of expecting them to do so with ARC as well, at least to introduce two playstyles with bows. BRD would be long bow style (somewhat stationary with some utility) while Ranger would be mobile/focus on short bows. Sad that they never did this.

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Originally Posted by Duelle

Back when they announced SCH and SMN branching from ACN, I was sort of expecting them to do so with ARC as well, at least to introduce two playstyles with bows. BRD would be long bow style (somewhat stationary with some utility) while Ranger would be mobile/focus on short bows. Sad that they never did this.

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The Devs said branching two jobs off of one class was a mistake for them and created balancing issues beyond what they thought would occur (everytime they try to increase SMN dps, it increases SCH dps beyond what they want in a healer). As a result, they said there will be no more branched jobs.

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Originally Posted by dank1

Dont use the whole brd dilemna to blantantly push your non brd related agenda, your signature clearly says what you really want, dont act like you care about brds lol

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This was already said at the very beginning. >w>
I'm just give a solution that no one else seemed to think of (even though there have been people clamoring for it since 2.0, like Duelle said), to a problem a vocal group of people have stated.