Why are mounts so pretty and egi's so bad?

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Originally Posted by Averax

Its an apples to oranges thing. Comparing two objects that are not the same object, and asking why one looks better than the other.

Its an argument that doesn't work, because the objects cannot be compared because they are two different objects.

Had the OP said "Why does Ifrit egi look cool, but garuda egi look like cat vomit" it would have been a good comparison because they're both egis.

But comparing mounts to egis doesn't make sense because they're not the same.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apples_and_oranges

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I'm sorry, but no.

Apples are grown on apple trees.

Oranges are grown on orange trees.

Meanwhile, mounts, characters, NPCs, egis, etc are created by the art team at SE. To compare the quality of one art asset to the quality of another in the same game makes absolutely perfect sense. The expectation to have all art assets within a game meet a certain standard of quality is pretty reasonable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_sense

I like Ifrit and Titan, atleast they have faces.
Not fond of Garuda, if they were going for the pet bird look over demonic harpy they could have at least made it look a bit more appealing.

Ifrit (same game)
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2.../Ifrit_XIV.jpg

Ifrit (same game)
http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/w/image...-Egi_(Mob).png

We all know they can do better, their team is amazingly talented.

I'm 99.% sure the "egi glamour" is a color pallet swap.

-Garuda from "green-yellow" to white using a dye
-titan from oraange to purple
-ifrit from red to black.

I don't see completely new work being done to something already implemented to be honest. You never focus on your pets, you're too busy fighting to notice. The only time you do notice is when youre at a standstill and you look closely.

Let's be honest, the real reason the Egi's look so weak is because... they are!

Our measly little pets account for just shy of a third of our total damage, so wouldn't it make less sense to have some incredibly powerful looking Egi only for it to hit for about as much damage as a cat scratch? I think that would annoy me even more than simply having them look the part.

I must be in the minority that doesn't mind how the Egis look.

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Originally Posted by KyteStones

I'm 99.% sure the "egi glamour" is a color pallet swap.

-Garuda from "green-yellow" to white using a dye
-titan from oraange to purple
-ifrit from red to black.

I don't see completely new work being done to something already implemented to be honest. You never focus on your pets, you're too busy fighting to notice. The only time you do notice is when youre at a standstill and you look closely.

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It was stated when the first mentioned that it would allow us to use whatever Egi (including Carbuncles) we wanted while keeping the skill set of the summoned Egi. IE. Garuda Egi skills while looking like Titan.

My personal hopes are that (SUMMONER STORYLINE QUEST MINI-SPOILER)


In the game they describe the fact we cannot summon other egi (Ramuh) because we lack enough aether, so with SAVAGE primals coming out we know extreme > hard > normal primals aether and so with SAVAGE primals perhaps if we beat them on savage mode we will get enough aether (another quest opens up) to be able to get the egi glamor.

If I was a part of the development team I would strongly have advised this path for handling it. Gives variety, a sense of achievement AND works with the story!

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Originally Posted by Lewtskie

God help us the idiot who wants to just zoom in on an Egi during a fight, right? Point is, it's there, but relative to how long you're looking at in a fight compared toe everything else going on around you, no, it doesn't need excessive detail. It's wasted effort to make something as detail as Twintania be the size and relevance of a pet.

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And yet we all expect our tiny weapons to look epic, even though nobody is paying attention to them during a battle, and the only time the detail can be appreciated is when we're intentionally making an effort to inspect them up close. And (as we all know) heaven help the artists if those items don't hold up under scrutiny of the players.

As a Paladin player my sword and shield are an important part of my character. I don't want them looking goofy any more than a Summoner wants any important part of their character to look goofy. I have no interest at all in playing a pet class, and yet even I can understand that simple concept.

That the original poster is comparing mount art to egi art doesn't matter, nor is it "apples and oranges". Because the point is that the egis are lacking compared to the standard of art quality we as players expect of this game on all other levels. So why, therefore, do we give the egis a free pass?

Whether it is this:
http://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/im...oth_mount1.jpg

..or this:
http://rss.finalfantasyxiv.com/jp/bl...20130724_2.jpg

..or these:
http://zantetsuken.net/wp-content/up...eapons-pld.png

..or any of these:
https://riikorinkoko.files.wordpress...amo-minion.jpg

..this:
http://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/im...egi_front1.jpg

..should hold up as an art asset in the game, and in the opinion of many it doesn't.

I am really not sure why anyone would be opposed to these pet assets getting an upgrade. Throughout the entire game they are sitting there amongst us, in a crowd, in a party, etc, and they always will be. They might as well look decent like everything else.

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Originally Posted by Gyson

Tomatoes turn red upon ripening, once the chlorophyll breaks down and lycopene becomes the dominant pigment. And the blue in the sky is a result of blue light being scattered more than other colors by the molecules in the air.

But what does this have to do with why the FFXIV designers have chosen to make one NPC model extremely detailed and another sub par?

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Then there is sunset where the sky does have a hint of red, but yea that's beyond the point here.

I wonder if that person used a bad analogy for the egi situation.