Who else likes Wanderer's Minuet?

how are you guys weaving Empyreal Arrow??

im making sure im aligning it with Barrage.

iv been replacing HS every time EA is up. due to it being off GCD it finish the cast early. then i immediately followup with HS.

the best situation however is to use it when you have a straighter shot (no cast) and weave it before your next heavy shot.

I'm kinda okay with it since the 20% boost is applied to everything else to make up for the auto attack lost, also the rain of death changes lets me spam aoe with more damage and for free. The things that I don't like much is the 1.5 second cast time slightly slowing down my skill weaving with Bloodletter/Rain of Death as sometimes I get two or three times Bloodletter reset during casting time so that's a somewhat a DPS lost, it will be good if its 1 second cast (or 0.5 lol).

There is no real choice as empyrial arrow(powerfull and somewhat offcooldown ability)/iron jaws (free extend of dots, very powerfull especially if dots have buffs appllied)/sidewinder (strongest attack from bard arsenal) usable only under minuet.
Cast time on abilities is 1.5 sec so bard still have a room for 1 ofcd ability per each cast.

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Originally Posted by Viar

Activate Barrage. Have three crits in a row. :(

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No crits for barrage.

As I'm only 53, I'm still on the fence about it. With the over all changes to Barrage, RoD, and as new abilities coming in I'm still working over how to weave it together. Depending on how it works out I see a possible reimagining of stats when gearing brd (no longer full on det/crit heavy but a mix in of SS due to DoT proc being affected).

Funny enough though, ran into a few that don't look at anything outside of their own job then accuse a person of being bad cause they see 3 or 4 RoD in a row on group of mobs. Yup, Mr. oblivious, I just 'wasted all my tp to spam RoD' so I must suck *rolls eyes*/sarcasm

Lovin the song. Honestly it may seen like there is no dps gain but imo the song starts to shine when you get EA and IJ. As someone stated. Barrage with EA does like 3k+. IJ literally makes it where BRD has infinite amount of TP. I was able to attack a dummy for 9 minutes. Before id be out of tp by 4 minutes. Imo with EA and IJ only being only WM skills it's definitely worth the auto attack lost. Your giving up auto attack for a 240 potency every 15 seconds

I don't get it honestly. I see people gushing about it and their new DPS number and i just think "But what about the play style shift?". It feels nothing like Bard anymore and instead is some sort of weird persuadeo caster job, and thats just not what Bard is to me. And no for FUCK sake it's not about not being able to move as much. If you took the same idea of not being able to use abilities while moving but REMOVED the cast bar i think i would be happy.

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Originally Posted by Felessan

No crits for barrage.

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No one appreciates a joke.

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Originally Posted by Katchoo

I don't get it honestly. I see people gushing about it and their new DPS number and i just think "But what about the play style shift?". It feels nothing like Bard anymore and instead is some sort of weird persuadeo caster job, and thats just not what Bard is to me. And no for FUCK sake it's not about not being able to move as much. If you took the same idea of not being able to use abilities while moving but REMOVED the cast bar i think i would be happy.

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Yep, you can't make two full circles round the mob while doing the opener anymore. And so what?

I mained BRD all the time, and I feel very comfortable with wm. I actually appreciate it. After playing white mage for some time and raising it up to 52, I actually like the idea of BRD's being forced to stay on one damn place and feel at least some pain of cast times and trying to move as less as it's humanly possible.

As a bard who didn't see the need to run around constantly like a headless chicken, minuet is amazing. Is it REALLy that much of a style change? U can interrupt those casts after like 1 second or so and get the hit ( stutter cast for you blms alts )

only 55 atm but opening like:

(RS/HE/BL) SS (IR/B4B) WB (FA) VB (B)EA( repel)HS, clip dots etc

Ironjaw is going to be such a luxury <3 Cliping dots with 1 gcd<3 I guess sidewinder will replace the heavy shot after emperyal,( the time saved with ironjaw should allow this with buffs ofc) but idk anything about this skill yet. Is it an ogcd? Will it have a cast time in minuet? We know barrage wont affect it at least since it is an ability and not a weaponskill.

I was originally very worried about needing to use oGCDs in gcd time, but seeing as cast times are 1.5s/2.5s im very happy. makes me really wonder if bards will prefer sksp or det. The det nerf wont affect bards since we don't aa anyways.....but sksp has a new affect added to dots.....o?

Pretty sure we will never turn minuet off ever again. The damage boost from it is probably just meant to balance lack of AAs and make up for some of the lost dps when moving, but all the new skills require minuet active, and that is the reason we will never ever turn it off. People talk about turning it off for movement heavy fights but what u think blms have been doing in movement heavy fights? They learn how to move as little as possible. It will take a lot more effort for bards to optomise a fight now, compared to pre 3.0

I have some quetions about "Wanderer's Minuet" Is the song best not to use all the time, meaning will it out put lower dps in time due to how long you use it combate compared to the faster combate with the song off / or does it not matter if you used it all the time ?

And if in short bust is it best to use on boses and hard adds?