Nidhogg or not Nidhogg

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Originally Posted by Shuon

Another known fact is that we will receive help from the dragons hence the dragon mount in e same way we got our magitek mount. So maybe one of nidhogg's trusted lieutenant decided to assist us at some point. Just speculating.

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Judging by the looks of the dragon mount, it's very like that's simply Midgardsormr grown to a new size during his recovery. It may not look much like fully grown Midgardsormr, but it looks very much so like the Midgardsormr minion. So the dragons as a whole probably aren't doing us too many favors, but Midgardsormr will still be with us one way or another.

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Originally Posted by Samcaesar

I dunno, if the black one we fight at the end of the benchmark is Nidhogg, doesn't it seem a little weird that SE would show off such a massive story moment, especially considering Nidhogg is that important, in something like the benchmark? Maybe Nidhogg makes his ranks go through some weird eye gouging ceremony, like a whole "Share my suffering to show your loyalty and anger towards the Ishgardians"?

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I fear we may have to kill Nidhogg due to his rage but will otherwise find a peace with the other dragons. I actually don't think Nidhogg and the situation with the dragons will be the true problem for us to solve in the expansion though. The presence of not one but two allagan dungeons in the preview video, plus the confirmation of the Warring Triad on the Floating Continent, and the fact the Garlean Emperor is also in the skies suggests to me that there's going to be a plot twist or two that will shift our focus away from Ishgard.

Final Fantasy is often known to have a sudden reveal of a 'greater threat' and it would serve as a good catalyst to unite Ishgard and Dravania against a common enemy (which is the only way I see this war ending, regardless of how it started).

As others have pointed out though, I think the identities of the black and white dragons are pretty much confirmed via press events now.

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Originally Posted by WyrahFhurrst

Judging by the looks of the dragon mount, it's very like that's simply Midgardsormr grown to a new size during his recovery. It may not look much like fully grown Midgardsormr, but it looks very much so like the Midgardsormr minion. So the dragons as a whole probably aren't doing us too many favors, but Midgardsormr will still be with us one way or another.

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I don't know. They'll pronbably notice that we are using the father of all dragons as a mount. We will soon have an army of dragons.

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Originally Posted by Balipu

I don't know. They'll pronbably notice that we are using the father of all dragons as a mount. We will soon have an army of dragons.

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Unless, like the Magitek mount, he doesn't grow or allow us to ride him until the end of the 3.0 storyline as some sort of reward for something. Perhaps putting down his deranged son who was dragging out a war and putting plenty of dragon lives at risk. We know we don't get him immediately, and he won't be the first flying mount we get (Bayohne said in an interview that the first one we'll get is the Black Chocobo), so I think it's reasonable to think that he'll be a reward for completing the 3.0 storyline.

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Originally Posted by WyrahFhurrst

Unless, like the Magitek mount, he doesn't grow or allow us to ride him until the end of the 3.0 storyline as some sort of reward for something. Perhaps putting down his deranged son who was dragging out a war and putting plenty of dragon lives at risk. We know we don't get him immediately, and he won't be the first flying mount we get (Bayohne said in an interview that the first one we'll get is the Black Chocobo), so I think it's reasonable to think that he'll be a reward for completing the 3.0 storyline.

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Ah yes, that's also a possibility.

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Originally Posted by Balipu

One: He is way too small. Bahamut was the size of a city, Midgardsormr was pretty massive as well. Fluffy seems to be around the size of Vishap. Not large enough for a Wyrmking.

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Well Bahamut has 2 forms, Primal Bahamut that is the citysized version, and Bahamut Prime which I theorize is his true size. The one you fight in turn 13.. Only Bahamut of the elder dragons was transformed into a Primal. Thus the other Wyrmkings are at the size they are and not the size of Primal Bahamut.

Bahamut prime isn't it's true size, it's the primal version of Bahamut reduced to its very core, the real Bahamut that died a thousand years ago or so was probably as big as vishap if not even bigger.

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Originally Posted by Sapphic

Well Bahamut has 2 forms, Primal Bahamut that is the citysized version, and Bahamut Prime which I theorize is his true size. The one you fight in turn 13.. Only Bahamut of the elder dragons was transformed into a Primal. Thus the other Wyrmkings are at the size they are and not the size of Primal Bahamut.

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This could also be true. To be frank none of the dragons we saw in Heavensward so far were the size of Midi and Bahamut. In Fact the primal Bahamut might be larger than Midi.

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Originally Posted by Phyllo

Bahamut prime isn't it's true size, it's the primal version of Bahamut reduced to its very core, the real Bahamut that died a thousand years ago or so was probably as big as vishap if not even bigger.

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We don't know that fora certainty, neither do I with my theory. I'm basing it on Phoenix and louisoix (sp). Whereas Louisoix died at cartaneau, is he in a way form of "Phoenix prime"?

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Originally Posted by dragonflie

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And this scene in the dragonsong video seems to be a very FAT spoiler.

From the view and the movenent this scene seems to show: he is loosing his second eye too.