Should I keep staying with Dragoon or swap to another melee?

Since you can clip dots now you don't have to do the stupid jump delay crap Ayvar, Easy were working wayyy back when that was an issue with BfB and such, basically destroying your second CT combo.

That, and annoying >GCD jump delays are the only difficult aspects of dragoon.

Oh and that, you MUST make your positionals or your dots/buffs/rotation simply don't apply. That is what makes dragoon harder than monk. If you mess up as a monk, well, you just do a bit less damage. You still get GL, you still apply your buff, etc. For DRG, if you mess up a positional you blow up that entire combo.

PS that rotation flowchart has a disturbing lack of JOHN MADDEN. How can you hope to do good dps without it?

^ not any more. You will still combo but you'll do less dps

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Originally Posted by SpookyGhost

1 button: HT / Phleb
3 button: IDC / TTT

Before every 3 button combo, do a 1 button move.

1 button move rotation: HT -> Phleb
3 button rotation: IDC -> TTT -> TTT

That's how I remember it rotation-wise, at least. If you're more of a priority guy: HT > IDC > Phleb > TTT.

DRG's main difficulty isn't actually the rotation, but maximizing your oGCD CDs/abilities. Could just be me, but I find MNK significantly easier to play because I don't have to keep an eye on 500 CDs/abilities at once. D;

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I'd have to agree. It feels like the biggest challenge with MNK is keeping stacks and not getting tunnel vision =\.

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Originally Posted by RachaelMarie22

^ not any more. You will still combo but you'll do less dps

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Oh, well thats good!

Yeah, I am very glad that they removed the "no-positional == no combo" limitation.

Heavy Thrust! - damnit, missed - Heavy Thrust! - god damnit - Heavy Thrust! - STOP SPINNING THE MOB

Tanks who couldn't sit still were the bane of all Dragoons everywhere

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Originally Posted by spelley

Yeah, I am very glad that they removed the "no-positional == no combo" limitation.

Heavy Thrust! - damnit, missed - Heavy Thrust! - god damnit - Heavy Thrust! - STOP SPINNING THE MOB

Tanks who couldn't sit still were the bane of all Dragoons everywhere

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if you ask me its more devastating on ninja when that happens, usually something along the lines of:
"ok i got suiton up, now to tric... *twitch* .. did he just.... DAMN THIS TANK! NOW I HAVE TO WAIT A WHOLE MINUTE!"

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Originally Posted by Zamii

if you ask me its more devastating on ninja when that happens, usually something along the lines of:
"ok i got suiton up, now to tric... *twitch* .. did he just.... DAMN THIS TANK! NOW I HAVE TO WAIT A WHOLE MINUTE!"

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At least yours is every minute. This is a story of every monk's life.

Even worse is when they randomly dash a mob across the field to reposition it and since melee hit box on moving mobs means you have to be inside the mob to hit it while it's moving, those are the times you start having murderous thoughts.

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Originally Posted by Crescent_Dusk

At least yours is every minute. This is a story of every monk's life.

Even worse is when they randomly dash a mob across the field to reposition it and since melee hit box on moving mobs means you have to be inside the mob to hit it while it's moving, those are the times you start having murderous thoughts.

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Shoulder Tackle -> PB -> boss is moved back -> murder MT

It definitely will become muscle memory over time, don't worry. I remember hitting 50 and looking at the full rotation and just thinking "How on earth am I supposed to memorize all of that?" But then I looked at it more closely and broke it down and realized that it really is mostly a priority system-- keep HT and your DoTs up and then weave things in as they come off CD. The more you practice with it, the more natural it will become to you.

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Heavy Thrust! - damnit, missed - Heavy Thrust! - god damnit - Heavy Thrust! - STOP SPINNING THE MOB

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This still causes me stress trying to combo a RoT. Took 6 goes on one mob yesterday before the tank decided to sit still..just feel like not doing aoe sometimes..