A small request of SE

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Originally Posted by Rannie

I would also like to point out you were still reeling in pain from being forcefully thrown down by ilberd. Even in full Metal armor that's going to hurt like a bitch.

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You were probably not in perfect health before being tossed into the room either; it's highly likely the brass blades who held you, or even ilberd himself, was roughing you up (at best...) before bringing you to the party.

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Originally Posted by PArcher

You were probably not in perfect health before being tossed into the room either; it's highly likely the brass blades who held you, or even ilberd himself, was roughing you up (at best...) before bringing you to the party.

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That's what i've been saying nope no sunshine and lollypops for us while we were in their custody


The bastard Ilberd ate my tootsie roll pop in three bites like the damn owl.... *cries*

I think there'll be less outcry if our character had a sleep spell casted on him/her.

Remember when we were surrounded by Amaljaa and one of the thaumaturge casted a sleep spell on us to knock us out despite having our weapons drawn and prepared to defend ourselves? That would've been a great use

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Originally Posted by myahele

I think there'll be less outcry if our character had a sleep spell casted on him/her.

Remember when we were surrounded by Amaljaa and one of the thaumaturge casted a sleep spell on us to knock us out despite having our weapons drawn and prepared to defend ourselves? That would've been a great use

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They'd have to bring in the Thaumaturge's Guild to do that though - no Brass Blade that I know of uses magic. (Kinda goes against the Blade part.)

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Originally Posted by myahele

I think there'll be less outcry if our character had a sleep spell casted on him/her.

Remember when we were surrounded by Amaljaa and one of the thaumaturge casted a sleep spell on us to knock us out despite having our weapons drawn and prepared to defend ourselves? That would've been a great use

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The sleep spell could have worked. Granted it could have also caused people to cry out "But my character should have a high sleep resistance to it now after Amadapor and Diablo!!" (saying this as a possibility of what could happen not what will happen) Also, I don't know if I would want to have the same trick twice used in the game. In a good story telling the author doesn't go off and have the characters and villians do the same thing over and over unless they want to portray them as almost idiots. Which I have seen plots do.

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Originally Posted by Rannie

The sleep spell could have worked. Granted it could have also caused people to cry out "But my character should have a high sleep resistance to it now after Amadapor and Diablo!!" (saying this as a possibility of what could happen not what will happen) Also, I don't know if I would want to have the same trick twice used in the game. In a good story telling the author doesn't go off and have the characters and villians do the same thing over and over unless they want to portray them as almost idiots. Which I have seen plots do.

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Any number of other scenarios could have been marginally more plausible but at the end of the day, Mary Sue God Mode players will come up with increasingly ridiculous justifications for why their character would "never ever do something like that and is super special awesome and can kill 100 dudes". There's no pleasing the stupid.

not a big fan on this ending whatever.. i kill primals seriously and i supposedly lose almost my whole crew while i stand there with a dumb look on my face and nodding at everything.... BITE ME SE LMAO

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Originally Posted by axemtitanium

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You seem to be implying that folks dissatisfied with the ending are stupid... Do I need to point out the stupidity of this stance? People write their own persona for MMO characters. If you include the PC in a story scene SOMEONE will be dissatisfied no matter the results. For example, the PC DOES charge in guns blazing to save Rahbaun, damn the politics or personal safety. I would be fine with this because Remedia is all emotion little logic once you strike at those she perceives as friends. But others who either value the Sultana and Rahbaun less or prefer the more calculated type of character would feel they had been cheated out of that choice and would complain the PC was portrayed as a hotheaded idiot.

My argument is not that the PC should have been allowed to kill everything in his/her path and bash a way to victory or that they could have in any case. Rahbaun needing a handicap sticker for his chocobo is proof enough that the situation bodes ill for heroism and reckless violence in this particular case. MY argument is that SE should have acted to maintain the players sense of control over the PC's persona. Remove the PC's ability to act in a meaningful way so we have a reason to play the observer no matter the temperament, as it is I am left with evidence that when it suits them SE will take away control of the simplest aspect of my characters persona when they feel like it which is very bad form in an MMO.

The other option I guess which might make people more convinced is if we had some tougher looking enemies there. Say instead of just Brass Blades we had a couple of Sultansworn Elite arrest us. We know the Monetarists have members of the Sultansworn Elite in there pocket.

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Originally Posted by slml320

not a big fan on this ending whatever.. i kill primals seriously and i supposedly lose almost my whole crew while i stand there with a dumb look on my face and nodding at everything.... BITE ME SE LMAO

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yes you did didn't you but it took you along side maybe 15 npcs then the doman shinobie to kill what 30-40 guys when you went to recapture Roaille? Care to explain this? reasons now.