SE plz nerf zodiac quest ....

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Originally Posted by starLivitation

and instead of making fun of my spelling, consider english is not my main language, i taught it to myself as i was not got any english education in school.

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People aren't mocking your lack of English so much as your inconsistency. You misspell the same word 2 or more different ways in the same paragraph. Moreover, you misspell proper nouns like "Qarn," which is not a word in English.
This shows that you're not proofreading your posts when you make them, which is strongly advised for everyone, but especially those who are not native speakers of the language they're attempting to communicate in.
In short, they're not mocking your spelling and grammar (which is fine, by the way) so much as your lack of proofreading.

On topic, if you're having trouble, make your own group. Everyone has zodiac horror stories, and those on different stages would be willing to help you. For example, a lot of people working on Novus would likely be glad to help you, as Qarn gives decent soldiery.

Didn't they already increase the Atma and Alexandrite drop rate and doubled the amount of light you got from trials, dungeons, raids, Maps. I hear those dungeon Ki's can be a challenge, but it'll be adjusted like everything else was. Having tried to do a very long Relic, Mythic and Emp farm in XI and only ever finishing one to lv95. THIS IS EASY. Yes some things "like" Dzemael Darkhold, Aurum Vale, and Diabolos, etc.. are and can be annoying. I've seen people ditch because there's a new person in the group. No one is forcing anyone to help new people, just jerks leaving a bad impression. All tiered dungeons are also needed to get their roulette active.

This is a suggestion, perhaps you should stop trying. Then it'll just happen when it happens, and it'll be just pinky. So unless you're that guy, if you keep expecting it to happen it'll disappoint you. Alot. That expectation may be more irritating than the RNG involved. It also makes people bitter about the whole process.

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Originally Posted by Kotemon

Didn't they already increase the Atma and Alexandrite drop rate and doubled the amount of light you got from trials, dungeons, raids, Maps.

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Atma's and Alexandrite are decent enough drop rates, but the light grind is real. You have two options. Do the quickest content for the smallest amount of light, and do LOTS of runs. Or do the longest content for the maximum amount of light and do fewer runs. Either way you're going to spend a LOT of time on the same job to complete this part. And it gets frustrating fast.

That's probably my biggest issue with the zodiac quest line. There's so little variation throughout, so there's nothing to occupy your mind other than the one task in front of you. People rarely notice the tedium when they have enough variety to make up for it. The Nexus to Zodiac part is a little better in that regard. Splitting it down into 4 quarters and giving you individual tasks feels like a more achievable goal, so while the grind is still there it's less noticeable. Still expensive, mind you, but feels less grindy.

At any rate, arguing is fruitless as they've already said they'll be making the zodiac quests a touch easier when Heavensward arrives. Please look forward to it.

I want them to nerf the Animus -> Novus part. the prices of DET & CRI materias are ridiculous.

So I can't speak to the Zodiac Quest since I'm only lvl 45 but I wanted to mention my thoughts about this whole "forced to help new players" thing. I hate to say this but I like that you veterans are forced to deal with us. I get to wander into dungeons, learn encounters obtain gear then turn around and help new people I might be grouped with later. Some players are helpful just by nature, which I appreciate, but if a game does not incentivize playing with new players then veterans may start to find us a burden.

I moved here from WoW which does not incentivize helping new players. I've actually seen new players vote kicked from content just for being new. Not surprisingly this caused us to lose out on fresh blood and caused the raiding population to grow steadily anemic from fewer people playing and fewer newcomers knowing what to do or being invited to ever try.The endgame community over there, while by no means dead, is definitely a broken, hollow specter of its former self.

My point is, forcing people to sometimes play with "newbs" (and having the commendation system) is probably better for the game in the long run. Might also help player retention down the line. It may be annoying but...oh goodness, the alternative is probably worse.

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Originally Posted by Ayuhra

My point is, forcing people to sometimes play with "newbs" (and having the commendation system) is probably better for the game in the long run. Might also help player retention down the line. It may be annoying but...oh goodness, the alternative is probably worse.

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I wholeheartedly agree that being able to keep older content relevant is important, but unfortunately that's not what we're getting with this so far. Aside from a handful of low level dungeons, most of them are in the higher tiers and the grind tends to make players cranky and encourages too many speed runs from experienced players which can be frustrating for newcomers.

If SE truly wants to encourage players to enjoy low level content, they need to include a better system for it. Unique dungeon ingredients which remain relevant in high end content would be a start, or simply better rewards for participating in the content if you're level 50 or higher. Make people WANT to run the content rather than forcing them to and it'll be better for the game and the players.

Zodiac sounds a bit like grinds I've done in other games but tweaked to keep high level players down in the trenches at least some of the time.

Like I said, I haven't come close to even starting this grind, so I cannot talk about it as someone who has experience.

If it's as irritating as you say (and I don't doubt you) then hopefully this is a concept SE will streamline a bit come Heavensward.

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Originally Posted by Ayuhra

Zodiac sounds a bit like grinds I've done in other games but tweaked to keep high level players down in the trenches at least some of the time.

Like I said, I haven't come close to even starting this grind, so I cannot talk about it as someone who has experience.

If it's as irritating as you say (and I don't doubt you) then hopefully this is a concept SE will streamline a bit come Heavensward.

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Yep you got it.

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Originally Posted by starLivitation

i am stuck with noob players trying to get the last one done now, its sunken temple hard. these players are new to game i find many of them here and we wiped on the 2nd boss so many times i tried to explain, but i am just a healer, i can barly heal myself in there let alone dps while i am usualy tanking most of the mobs .

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players new at level 50 =/= new players
players bad in sunken temple hard =/= all players new at level 50

you don't "have to help new players" at all. Though I don't see why you would with that kind of attitude, ask friends to help you out and run them with you. full premade, no excuse for the "bad, new players" to drag you down, is there? The item drops regardless if it's 3/4 random or 4/4 premade, so just don't play with the randoms if you have such a problem with it.