Stone Vigil

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Originally Posted by Eidolon

Why the hell would you Steel Cyclone instead of Unchained on an AoE pull? Where is the Berserk/Unchain/Internal Release/Bloodbath before the Overpower spam? Seriously. That's a potent self-heal when you chain those four together.

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If the bigger concern is holding enmity Steel Cyclone lets you do more overpowers. Unchained doesn't. I love the combo you suggest, but there's certainly times I'm pulling faster than my tp will allow to use that instead of Steel Cyclone.

Edit: also pre-infuriate most of the times you'll have Steel Cyclone ready are when you're low on tp and resorting to single-target skills anyway, at which time the mobs are too close to dead to bother with unchained.

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Originally Posted by PetiteMalFleur

Don't listen to people who expect you to be an expert tank when you are still learning. All of 1-50 is a tutorial and way back at release I met countless players who leveled tanks to 50 just on fates then had no clue how to play the class. It's never too late to learn it and the community could use more tanks.

Practice makes perfect! Try the tips people are giving you and in no time you will figure out how things fit together. Ask for tips from the people in your dungeon. Don't be afraid to tell them you are new and would appreciate any advice. Don't take things personal when someone gets impatient.

Don't reroll another class but definitely level other classes to get perspective on what you can be doing to optimize your runs.

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I am thinking of doing PLD once I've got WAR to 50, then I'll be doing the dps jobs.

I don't think anyone has addressed this yet, but judging by how you mention provoke, it kind of makes me think you're misunderstanding how the skill works. I apologize if I'm saying something you already know.

Provoke and flash (which is an aggro builder) have two different purposes and function completely differently. Provoke puts you at the top of the enmity list. Beyond that, it builds no aggro.

So lets say a monk is attacking a target and takes hate from you and continues attacking it. Rather than having to try to catch up to the monk in aggro to get the mob's attention back, essentially having to do an aggro race with your skills vs his dps aggro, provoke allows you to instantly catch up to the monk and pass him by 1 aggro point. After that, you have to build aggro on it with aggro builders (such as flash, overpower, your combos, etc) to keep it's attention.

If all you do is provoke it, the monk will almost immediately pull hate off you again, because provoke only puts you 1 point ahead of him. Provoke is an aggro equalizer of sorts.

If you pull with provoke, the same concept applies. If no one has any aggro on a mob that you use provoke on in a fresh pull, you will only have 1 point of aggro on it. So you have to quickly build aggro or else someone will take hate almost immediately.

It's a good practice if you use provoke to pull to use tomahawk immediately afterwards to build decent aggro on the mob, or to use an aoe aggro builder to build aggro on it and the linked mobs that come with it if there are any.

If a ranged or healer takes aggro, it's a good idea to provoke the mob and tomahawk it immediately afterwards. This prevents you from having to chase it down. Provoke + tomahawk will build enough aggro usually to make it come back to you in time for you to hit it with larger aggro builders.

In short, you should NOT be trying to use provoke to hold hate, only to take hate. A skill like flash is to hold hate.

without be rude, what concern me more, is how you reach level 41+ without tank any dungeon before :x
i means as warrior it's the fastest way to level by doing dungeon. if you had you will have notice how work most of your skill.

take the time to read what do every skill and keep in mind all your skill are needed! you will often end with 3 action bar for all your skill.... but all of them have an utility at some point. then learn to use them.

I've finally got through it, despite being KO'd a couple of times and got back doing what I needed to do. Looks like I got all but one of those crystals at the end.

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Originally Posted by Anapingofness

Sometimes you will get healers who don't like to use Protect or Stoneskin because they feel it is useless. Personally, I think they don't don't use those skills because they are lazy but that's neither here nor there. Just do your best to ignore those types of situations even though they can be annoying.

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Before level 50 (or aurum vale if you want), stoneskin is useless. A tank that argues that it isnt (its always the tank), does not take into account the amount of HP it shields, its cast time, and its mp cost.