Pro tip: Do NOT expect new player to get tips from the forums

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Originally Posted by NyarukoW

Obviously you can't read.

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It becomes clear very quickly if someone is new and just unresponsive for whatever reason. You're assuming the experienced player would continue speed rolling through a dungeon as they watch players get mechanics wrong and die/or wipe the party. I've been in parties where I asked if people needed explanations and no one responded only to end in a wipe. And in this case you explain the dungeon mechanics anyway. What player is just going to continue to allow the party wipe over and over again just because party mates aren't responding? Let's use common sense here, please.

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Originally Posted by Ophie-Mio

Except that speedrunning (depending on content) is the primary method of how to run the dungeons. That isn't to say that you won't find someone who wants to go at it leisurely...because even I do it from time to time but it's a general assumption in the current play style of this game that dungeons that are not expert are automatically speedrun and expert dungeons are speedrun when the conditions are correct. You may not like it but this is what the majority do.

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i.e. de facto vs de jure

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Originally Posted by Kidblinks

I've been in parties where I asked if people needed explanations and no one responded only to end in a wipe. And in this case you explain the dungeon mechanics anyway. What player is just going to continue to allow the party wipe over and over again just because party mates aren't responding? Let's use common sense here, please.

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Exactly. It benefits no one to not respond if someone asks if anyone needs any explanations. Much better that you take the 20 seconds to have someone explain mechanics before a fight than to just go into the fight, wipe, and then end up getting the same explanation anyway.

You can blame this to PS3-PS4 players... console players new to this genre, and this being their first. Pro Tips: if you gonna play FF14, buy keyboard, learn to read, and TYPE a response. Be honest, being the dumb stupid idiot is far worse than admitting - I am new, and too lazy to look at youtube video (plus i have zero comprehension of how my class work other than pew pew die thank yo!). Chances are people who know the drill will be willing to slow down, type, and explain the strategy. Oh, DO NOT try to lead party if you have ZERO understanding on how the battle and mechanic works, and refuse to type direction - especially when it comes to any coil contents... Just because you clear it once as DPS (whatever dude, we won, I die the entire time) - does not make you an expert.

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Originally Posted by Luvbunny

You can blame this to PS3-PS4 players... console players new to this genre, and this being their first. Pro Tips: if you gonna play FF14, buy keyboard, learn to read, and TYPE a response. Be honest, being the dumb stupid idiot is far worse than admitting - I am new, and too lazy to look at youtube video (plus i have zero comprehension of how my class work other than pew pew die thank yo!). Chances are people who know the drill will be willing to slow down, type, and explain the strategy. Oh, DO NOT try to lead party if you have ZERO understanding on how the battle and mechanic works, and refuse to type direction - especially when it comes to any coil contents... Just because you clear it once as DPS (whatever dude, we won, I die the entire time) - does not make you an expert.

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I'd say there's absolutely no shortage of PC players who walk into Coil with the mindset of "pew pew die" - that's not a console issue, that's a people issue.

Regardless, on the topic of this thread, I am in absolute agreement. One should never assume players will consult forums or watch videos before doing content. One should not even assume that players even understand that the option to do so is out there. One should always be ready to discuss mechanics and help new or inexperienced players to learn what they need to do.

However, I also believe that if, after asking whether anyone needs advice or assistance, you are met with silence, it is safe to assume everyone is confident and ready. Instances where players have made it all the way to level 50 without coming up with SOME form of communication with other players may happen, but are exceedingly rare - and encouraging them to continue to be uncommunicative is doing them no favors at all. This is a social game; players need to learn to communciate sooner or later, and the sooner the better. If a silent player begins to get frustrated because no one will tell them what to do, that's a GOOD thing, because it will encourage them to speak up, ask questions, and learn.

This is true even for players who do not speak a common language; auto-translate is there for a reason, and it is more versatile than you might think, as any veteran of FFXI can tell you. On that game, ALL servers had players from all regions; there were no data centers like we have in FFXIV. Practically a whole form of speech was born from interactions between cultures; there were few players of any language, for instance, that did not know that (Fishing) meant to seek out a mob, pull it, and drag it back to camp, in spite of the fact that the term was added to represent, well, catching fish. While a similar sub-language may not be present in FFXIV, there's still plenty of information you can get across with auto-translate.

There's no reason to always assume the lowest common denominator when deciding on a playstyle. If one is present, adjust accordingly, but until then play however you like.